I was always a bit interested in the whole Stargate idea ever since the movie came out but never saw it and never followed the series. I saw the movie a little while ago and I've caught episodes here and there. But now with the starting of a spinoff and the starting of a new season soon, I really want to get caught up. I borrowed the season 5 DVD set from my girlfriend's mother and have almost watched it all. Just the last disk left. I was hoping with the collective knowledge of fellow Flarites I could get some gaps filled in and brought up to speed on current events. I thought I saw somewhere that the season starting on July 16th is season 8 but the SG1 website only has up to season 6 for episode listings...
Edit: Oh, and if anything about Daniel Jackson after/during season 5 could be omitted until I get there, it would be appreciated. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, quite a bit happened in five years of the show. Are there any specific questions you want answered, rather than just asking for a detailed synopsis of most of the series?
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Excellent... another Stargate thread...
Start by looking at a couple of the links posted in the Atlantis thread. They have good episode synopsii.
This might work better, too, if you ask any specific questions you have... otherwise you'll have me rambling on forever.
From the incomplete picture I have, major events include:
- The reopening of the Stargate program and the formation of the initial SG teams tasked with seeking out alien technology that can help them defend against the Goa'uld.
- The discovery that the Goa'uld, Ra's race from the movie, did not build the Gate system which allows travel between thousands of planets in our galaxy (and others with the approriate supercharging).
- The alliance with the Asgard, a technologically advanced race of little grey men from another galaxy, and the inclusion of Earth in the Protected Planets Treaty, which the Asgard administrate.
- The encounters with the Replicators, the Asgard's mortal enemy.
-The alliance with the Tok'ra, an off-shoot of the Goa'uld who oppose them, but utilize the same host/symbiant relationship as the Goa'uld.
- The alliance with the Tollen, an advanced race of humans (right?) who are reluctant to share technology with others.
I'm sure there are more, but I'm going to bed right now.
EDIT: TSN snuck in before me.. but yah... ask some questions. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
The Tollan are indeed humans. I believe the theory was that they progressed technologically at the same rate as Earth after they were relocated, but they didn't experience our Dark Ages.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. You wanted to catch up on seven years of SG-1, so you just plunged headlong into season 5? And now you want us to fill you in on *everything* that happened prior to S5? Do you always read your books in reverse chronological order and ask others to summarize the opening chapters for you, too? B)
Posted by TheWoozle (Member # 929) on :
Season 1, episode 1:
Jack Oniel is grabbed and hustled down to Stargate Command, to be grilled by General Hammond.. because an attack force came though the Stargate that he had reported was secure. After going to Abados and hooking back up with Daniel, an atack force comes through that stargate, dragging them off to Apophis's headquarters planet. While there, Shau'ri becomes his go'uld queen and the chief's son is also Go'ulded. T'elc rebels, helping them escape and they become SG-1, to find out what's going on in the universe.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Well, I just wanted some holes filled in, I guess. Like the whole NID thing, Maybourne, Q-I mean Col Simmons, Russian stargating, Col Grieves and his stargating team... Big stuff, I guess.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
NID and Russian Gating... this is going to go fast, so pay attention:
A second Gate and DHD are found on Earth in Antarctica and stored at Area 51.
NID begins covertly using this Beta Gate to steal technology from other worlds. They're under the authority of Maybourne.
Their team is stopped and Beta Gate mothballed.
SG-1 beams Alpha Gate up to Baliskner (Asgard ship) to Gate off before ship crashes. SGC whips out Beta Gate and begins using in SGC.
Russians find Alpha Gate in ocean and hook it up to the DHD they already have from looting Germany after WW2. They begin using it to start their own program using addresses supplied by Maybourne. Their program doesn't last very long.
Col. Simmons is another story entirely, but I don't know it all so someone else can tell it. He's a bad guy.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
"Abydos", "O'Neill", "Goa'ould", "Teal'c".
Major plot points:
There was once an alliance of four ancient races, the Nox, the Furlings, the Asgard, and the Ancients. The Nox are pacifists, still around but not much use to us. Extremely advanced. The Furlings we've never seen, may or may not all be dead. The Ancients we don't learn much about until S6 and 7. A repository of their knowledge was dumped in O'Neill's head for a bit, but the Asgard got it out. That's when we first contacted them. The Asgard relocated to another galaxy whose name escapes me, where they are fighting the Replicators. They're little artificially intelligent mechanical bugs, who are damned hard to kill. The Asgard also have the problem that their ability to reproduce is gone. They reproduce by cloning now, but this results in zero or negative population growth. They're looking for a solution.
The Asgard are your typical Roswell Greys, and their tech is far far in advance of standard Goa'ould tech. They can't spare the resources to help us at the moment, so they bluffed the Goa'ould system lords into including Earth in the protected planets treaty some time in S2 or 3. The system lords are obligated to keep from attacking earth now, or face Asgard retaliation. That retaliation won't come, but they don't know that.
A second gate was discovered on Earth during the first season, in Antarctica. Also called the Beta gate. We kept it locked up for a while, but discovered that the storage crate at Area 51 actually contained a plastic replica. The NID, supposedly a civilian oversight group for various black projects like SGC, contained a few unpleasant characters who were using the gate to go and STEAL advanced tech from other races. The SGC found that out and stopped them, confiscating the beta gate.
At some point, I can't remember quite when, SG1 was trapped on an Asgard ship about to crash into Earth's atmosphere. They'd purposefully disabled soft landing to prevent the Replicators onboard from gaining a foothold on Earth. All the outgoing transporters were disabled, so they beamed the Alpha gate up to the ship and escaped through that. The Beta gate was installed at SGC and used for normal operations, and the Alpha gate assumed destroyed. Actually, the Russians recovered it. They had the DHD from the Giza dig, having captured it from Russia after WW2, and were using it to run their own gate program. That fell apart due to cost and technological conflicts that arise from having two gates on one planet. You'll get the resolution of that plotline in early S6.
The Tok'ra are the same species as the Goa'ould, but only take hosts voluntarily. They have limited numbers, and operate against the Goa'ould by infiltration. They tend to be very arrogant, not sharing information with us when it would be useful to both parties. The alliance has been quite rocky. Sam's father, who was dying of cancer, volunteered to become a host for a Tok'ra named Selmak. Sam herself was a host briefly for Jolinar, though less voluntarily. She still retains a number of that symbiotes memories, including her relationship with Martouf/Lantash. Sam also has the ability to use some Goa'ould technology. Martouf was killed in an assassination attempt, and Lantash later died when the Goa'ould attacked a Tok'ra base.
The Tolan were an extremely advanced group of humans. Their technology was well in advance of the Goa'ould. They had the same arrogance as the Tok'ra, though. They also refused to share technology with us. I think their fate was part of S5, so I'm guessing you've seen it. They were involved in a sting operation against the rogue NID unit. When the beta gate was confiscated from the NID, some of their people were trapped off-world. Using goa'ould communication technology and a mole in the SGC, they continued their operations stealing tech from advanced races. The Asgard, Tollan, and Tok'ra all threatened to cut off relations with us until we convinced them that the SGC was not responsible. O'Neill set up a sting operation in which he infiltrated the group, located those responsible, and took them all into custody, including the mole in the SGC.
Colonel Maybourne was a less-than-pleasant black ops kinda guy who showed up on occasion. Pretty unscrupulous. He turned out to be in charge of the NID's gate program, which O'Neill discovered when he infiltrated their group. He was then found helping the Russian gate program, and convicted of treason. Jack needed his help to get info to blackmail the NID with, so they couldn't blackmail Hammond into resigning. Turned out Senator Kinsey had some connections with them. Resulted in a nice scene where the two were in Kinsey's house, and had the information, but the bad guys had surrounded the house waiting for them to come out. So O'Neill calls a bunch of reporters and tells them Kinsey is running for president. The reporters swarm the house, and O'Neill just walks out and drives off in one of the NID's vehicles as they stand and watch. Hilarious. Maybourne escaped after that, but you'll see him one more time in S6. Simmons effectively replaced his character role, NID kinda guy. You'll see him once more, too.
Apophis tried to wipe us out in late S1. Daniel Jackson was pulled into an alternate universe by nifty alien tech on some planet, and found out the attack was coming and from where. When he got back, after the alternate Earth fell, he warned our SGC. Senator Kinsey was having the gate program shut down, but SG-1 went to the gate coordinates Daniel brought back anyway, and ended up on Apophis' ship. They took out both ships with the help of Bra'tac, Teal'c's mentor. Apophis and Klorel, his "son" who possessed Skaara, escaped.
Apophis lost his power base due to that attack, and was eventually hunted down by the system lord Sokar. Sokar had built up a fleet capable of challenging ALL the rest of the system lords. Apophis requested asylum from the SGC, but then died due to lack of a sarcophagus. We gave his body to Sokar, who was threatening to attack if we didn't. The Tok'ra asked for our assistance in assassinating Selmak, due to the threat he posed to the balance of power among the system lords. The operation was successful, but it turned out that Sokar had resurrected Apophis, who then took over Sokar's fleet.
Klorel, in the mean time, was found by the Tollan. They held a trial to determine whether the host or symbiote should retain possession of Skaara's body. They eventually found in favor of Skaara, who was sent back to Abydos. Klorel was never heard from again. Sha're, possessed by Amonet, was impregnated by Apophis. The child would be known as a harcesis, one born of two Goa'ould hosts, and would possess all the knowledge of his parents. This, by the Goa'ould, is a Bad Thing. Apophis intended to take the child as his new host, but was prevented from doing so by SG-1 and a convenient attack by Heru-ur. Sha're was later killed by Teal'c to prevent her from killing Daniel Jackson.
The child was eventually determined to be in the keep of Oma Desala, on Kheb. Oma turned out to be a glowing energy thing, ala Jackson at the end of S5, as did the child, Shifu. After finding the child and bringing him back to earth, the SGC tried to use his latent knowledge of the Goa'ould to find a defense against them, but Shifu convinced Jackson that accessing the knowledge would corrupt him. The darkness inside him was too strong to fight, and so the only way to win was to deny it battle, or some such. Shifu then went along his glowy way, and was never seen again.
Jack and Sam are very attracted to each other, but know better than to do anything about it, military regs and all. That, and all Carter's boyfriends tend to end up dead.
Teal'c has started a rebellion among Jafaa, giving Earth yet another ally. The Jaffa have the problem, however, that their symbiotes eventually mature, meaning they need new ones. The Goa'ould are being less forthcoming with such symbiotes, of late.
SGC has come up with some nice tech for Earth along the way, regardless of the difficulties. The X301 was a retrofitted death glider, it failed due to a hidden recall device. The X302 is fully Earth constructed, and theoretically hyperspace capable. We're approaching the point where we have the ability to defend Earth against an all-out Goa'ould assault.
Teal'c's son and wife have been relocated from Chulak. (Welcome to Chulak, it's a perfect town, here we have some rules, let us lay them down...) You'll get more resolution on that soon, too.
Daniel Jackson's ex girlfriend has been possessed by Osiris. Sucks to be her.
And that's SG-1.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"The Tok'ra asked for our assistance in assassinating Selmak..."
Sokar.
Anyway, the Simmons thread. You've seen season 5, so you know who and what he is, but you don't know yet why he's doing what he's doing (smooching with the Goa'uld that Maybourne "acquired" from the Russians and sold to Adrian Conrad), because that isn't wrapped up until Prometheus and Paradise Lost in season 6.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Oops. Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Wow... when I see it laid out like that... it's really alot like a soap opera... except with snakes and glowing eyes.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Goa'uld".
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Bless you.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"it's really alot like a soap opera..."
Yeah. The show should really be renamed to "Soapgate SG-1", or "Stargate SG-90210", or maybe "As The Stargate Turns", wouldn't you agree? B)
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
LOL... "As the Stargate Turns". Beautiful.
Stargate really does do a good job with stringing out storylines though. Things like bringing back the Beta Gate, or other plot points from a whole seasons ago almost never happened in Star Trek. DS9 was the best at it, but even they didn't do it alot.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I meant to mention this earlier: Try the season-six episode "Disclosure" for a recap of the first 5.5 years of the show. It was a clip show where the US gov't decided to inform Britain, China, and France about the Stargate, and they pretty well summed up the whole series to that point.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Don't forget the Canadian government. According to the commentary track, the Canadian ambassador was consistently off getting coffee for the rest of the guys.
mark
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
*L*
I was wondering about that, they referenced the Canadian government knowing about the gate in late S7.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
The S7 reply was an Atlantis giveaway, given that at that time they were planning a character named Dr. Benjamin Ingram of African-Canadian descent. The Canadian angle was supposedly to accent the more international (read: less US military) feel of the Atlantis team.
Of course, unable to find an appropriate actor for Ingram, they figured they really wanted a character like McKay, and so performed a character transplant when they found David Hewlett was available. Suddenly McKay was a Canadian (though in previous episdoes it was never established where he was from), and gained the character point that his genetic structure prevents him from interfacing with Ancient technology.
Mark
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Y'know, I can understand Canada not being informed in Disclosure, but not Germany or Japan. In terms of "military capacity", those two are at least as bulky as France, so...
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
The five that were in "Disclosure" have two major things in common: they're the permanant members of the UN security council, and they're the legal nuclear powers. (I'm not exactly sure why the site I saw classified India and Pakistan as illegal ones, but...)
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Has anything come of the other powers knowing about the Stargate? I saw "Disclosure" rerun on FOX, but haven't seen enough afterwards to know if there's been any fallout.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Not especially, though the continued Russian involvement in the SCG program is proof that international involvement isn't dead. The real consequence will be the Atlantis team, which is deliberately an international endeavour: McKay from Canada, etc.
Mark
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Right, I remember they formed a Russian SG Unit. It was O'Niell's suggestion in order to keep them off of SG-1, IIRC. What unit number did they get?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
SG-4, I believe. The last time they were seen was in "Metamorphosis", where Nirrti killed Colonel Ivanov.
According to the MGM website:
SG-1 Exploration/ First Contact SG-2 Exploration/ First Contact SG-3 Marine Combat (Alpha) SG-4 Exploration SG-5 Marine Combat (Beta) SG-6 Search and Rescue SG-7 Scientific SG-8 Medical SG-9 Diplomatic SG-10 UNKNOWN SG-11 Engineering Corps SG-12 Mineral Exploration SG-13 UNKNOWN SG-14 UNKNOWN SG-15 UNKNOWN SG-16 Combat SG-17 UNKNOWN
- France would immediately surrender to the System Lords - Spain would promptly hold a referendum, electing a government friendly to the System Lords.
Canada is a different story. We just go and get the coffee...
Actually, the reason Canada is in this thing is that, secretly, Stargate Command is in Vancouver, BC.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Exactly. Didn't you know that the "Cheyenne Mountain Complex" is just a front?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
It would explain why that Jeep with "SGT MACK" written on the windshield has been parked in the same spot outside the entrance for seven years.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I really wish they had brought in a Russian member for SG-1 during the, uh, Jackson interregnum.
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