Just kicking off this thread with a few observations for those that have seen the episode.
* Shades of Blade Runner with the Valerii subplot, and it does seem like both of them are Cylon, although this does not preclude additional agents onboard the fleet. While the Boomer onboard Galactica was/is struggling with the possibility of being a Cylon agent, this is unknown with the Boomer on Caprica They also seem to be manuvering Chief Tyrol to take a fall.
* Supply problems continue. Water shortages obviously, Baltar notes that the fleet will require tons of food of food and water, and the president only has three outfits While this episode is a good start, I don't believe that they can fully cover the problems that supplying 50,000 people with no supply lines entails. The only analogy that comes to mind would be accounts of the various Crusades in which armies routinely lost more soldiers to weather and food. However, like Jeremiah, this show will have to knowingly compromise realism for entertainment.
* I really like the dynamic with two older and experienced leaders. Its been a while since TNG or B5 first season. Especially with the various Whedon shows and Enterprise, I think I'm running all out of ....well young.
* The story about the slip of paper seems familiar, although I do not recall the real-world counterpart.
* Damn indoor jerky-cam
"Good hunting"
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I want to wait until SPACE gets these episodes in January... Are there online cap galleries somewhere?
Mark
Posted by Marauth (Member # 1320) on :
It's fairly obvious to the casual viewer now that Boomer is a Cylon, or if not she is at least completely controlled by them, but a qvestion: how do we know the Boomer on Caprica is the real one? I mean when would she have had the time to switch places - 'Boomer' picked up the civilians and ferried them to Galactica - we never saw her take the raptor back but the Boomer on Caprica said that she came back for what's his face because she doesn't like to fly alone Is there even a real one?
It's fairly obvious right now that Galactica will either stay realistic and more civies will have to die off to alleviate the supply problem - not good as they're supposed to be building the population up, not sacrificing those they can't keep fed - or they'll go the evil bad nasty voyager route where suddenly after the second season it just ceases to be an issue because we've got more important stories to tell! (Hopefully this wont happen).
Anyone got any ideas for a third alternative? Apparently the season finale is them finding Kobol - the planet humans originate on so maybe they'll settle there?
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
One serious problem with this episode. The Galactica's hull can withstand at least a low yield nuke detonating close to its hull, but it can't withstand a couple hand placed charges. Hull strength of the week is just as bad as FTL engine of the week.
I'm highly skeptical that a "real" Boomer ever existed. The one on Caprica could be part of a Cylon plot to root out survivors.
Marauth, in the original BSG, they did find Kobol. Only it was late 20th century Earth. With the Cylons hot on their tail, the survivors of the 13 Colonies racked their brains trying to make a successful first contact and unite the planet against the Cylons.
Kinda Deus Ex Machina, but I'm hoping that they'll come across by chance a human colony from Cylon War I. Maybe a battlegroup that got cut off from the 12 Colonies and had to jump way beyond the Red Line to avoid destruction. Galactica could use the additional manpower, fighters and maybe even pick up a few escorts. Convert the troop ships from the old battlegroup in flying farms, and you might have a viable solution to the food problem.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
No, they found Kobol in something like the second episode. Earth was the thirteenth colony, and ALL the colonies were founded from Kobol. And the events you describe are part of the Galactica 1980 series, which never ever happened ever.
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
My bad. Spotty watching of the series makes memory fail. Posted by Marauth (Member # 1320) on :
Man even I knew Earth was the 13th colony and I loathed and despised the old show as a dodgy SW rip-off. *ducks incoming barrage of angry BSG fanboy missiles*.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
quote:Originally posted by David Templar: One serious problem with this episode. The Galactica's hull can withstand at least a low yield nuke detonating close to its hull, but it can't withstand a couple hand placed charges. Hull strength of the week is just as bad as FTL engine of the week.
Are these "hand placed charges" on the outside or the inside? If it's the inside, it's similar to driving a tank over an antitank landmine, or dropping a live grenade inside, yes?
Mark
Posted by Marauth (Member # 1320) on :
inside, where there is presumably much less armour or shielding or whatever they want to call it.
BTW what a fcuking moron the chief is, I mean come ON. Has he never heard of duty to his species? Or at least has he heard of 'don't literally screw the enemy, just kill them'. Just a thought that was exacerbated by tonight's episode and his continued stupidity.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Both are difficult. You probably can't just gain access to those huge water-tanks (let alone getting something in the water), and any EVA activity is probably well-documented and restricted.
The intent seemed to be that the charges were placed inside, probably directly on the hull. An explosion, coupled with the water-pressure, is thus enough to breach the hull from the inside out.
Is there any official site for this series? Or at least an up-to-date site with airdates?
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
quote:Originally posted by Marauth: BTW what a fcuking moron the chief is, I mean come ON. Has he never heard of duty to his species? Or at least has he heard of 'don't literally screw the enemy, just kill them'. Just a thought that was exacerbated by tonight's episode and his continued stupidity.
Yeah, one would think that with the fate of the entire species in the balance, someone would think with his brains instead of his balls.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Yes, people are known for that.
Posted by Marauth (Member # 1320) on :
Well actually, badly written clich�s are known for that, not many people.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Oh sorry, you're right. I forgot for a moment that people never make bad decisions regarding the opposite sex.
Posted by Marauth (Member # 1320) on :
Well obviously we do but not to the extent portrayed on TV, I can live without the T&A requirement modern sci-fi producers seem to be obsessed with.
And my brain is firmly located in my head and not my trousers thankyou very much.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
And of course a bunch of geeks posting on an internet board are a fully representative sample of sexually-active human beings.
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
I think you're being too hard on yourself. Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Lee is probably one of the most sexually active of all of us...
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Shush!
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Although I think Styrofoaman & wife are the most active...
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Well, if they spent as much time actually doing it as they do talking about it, they'd have died of exhaustion ages ago. 8)
Posted by Styrofoaman (Member # 706) on :
Have very little time to visit here beteen the company and the sexing and the children.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
He lies! They're actually very conservative, only believe in sex for procreation. 8)
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Children... plural?
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Three, as I recall. One and a set of twins.
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
quote:Originally posted by Topher: Lee is probably one of the most sexually active of all of us...
Then he's being too hard on the rest of us...
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Oo-er.
Posted by Styrofoaman (Member # 706) on :
quote:Originally posted by Topher: Three, as I recall. One and a set of twins.
And possibly a fourth on the way... Details as they become known. 8)
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Oh, bloody hell!
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
quote: Boldly Going Forward Because We Can't Find The Brakes.
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