Don Davis (Hammond) and Jay Acovone (Kawalsky) also come back in the (probable series) finale, which is (surprise surprise) about time travel and alternate realities. Jaye Davison is NOT reprising his role as Ra, and Gateworld suspects that he'll remain masked for the time we see him anyway.
So it looks like we're jumping around the eight-plus years of Stargate we've been given, and we'll be revisiting some favorite characters and events of the show. Cliched, yes, but assuming this is the end of the series it'll be a nice sendoff if they stick to the SG-1 standard of doing cliched things right.
ADDENDUM: Looks like there WILL be a ninth season, though it's yet to be confirmed by official sources. One of the producers is reported as saying the show will be back, though Richard Dean Anderson will be seen in only FOUR episodes of the season.
This comes as no huge surprise to fans, who know RDA has wanted out of the show for years now. I'm willing to be that he'll be written out of the show by switching places with Hammond, who was sideways-promoted to the Pentagon to make room for RDA's reduced schedule. In any case, I hope this'll mean we'll finally have a fourth character on the team again. Jonas, you around?
Mark
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I understanding getting rid of RDA if he wants out, but I really think they need to kill his character off. How else could they realistically explain O'Niell walking away from the SGC?
I for one will be happy to see Ra again. If there's one series that can handle going back to the beginning of the story, I think it's probably SG-1. TNG's series finale did very good with it too.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"How else could they realistically explain O'Niell walking away from the SGC?"
I suppose they could pull some kind of thing where he, for whatever reason, is forced to remain on some other planet, and they can't miraculously find a solution like usual.
Or he could be captured by someone (Ra, for instance?) and the whole season could be spent rescuing him.
I guess ti depends upon whether he's going to be in the first four episodes in a row, or four random episodes throughout the season.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
Sounds kind of like what The X-Files tried doing with Mulder when David Duchovny wanted out. Mulder got abducted and they had to try to find him.
In this case though, I think they've already set it up, we know O'Neill isn't happy about being in charge. Running the command is more of an administrative sort of thing and he's always been more of a field action kind of guy not content to sit behind a desk.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Does Atlantis have enough puddlejumpers that they can just send one back to Earth like that? I thought they only had three of them or something. And we don't really know if they managed to recover that one from "The Defiant One".
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I'm guessing this is actually the one they're trying to recover in "It's Good to be King". It's also possible that this is one of the time travelling alternate reality whatsits where the SGC has a jumper (note some of the pictures where the gang aren't wearing standard outfits or older weapons).
Either way, I suppose it's convenient that the silo the gate sits in on Earth has room enough above it to house one.
Mark
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Am i the only one that thnks Ra looks unspeakably goofy? It looks like he can lift up his mask (via that beard/joystick) and do a passable dark Helmet inpersonation. "Fuck! Even in an alternate reality, I always get killed!" Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :
This has to be an alt. reality. MP5s? Puddle Jumpers? what looks to be Abydos? Im confused, afraid, and excited. Hold me.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
LOL - I was going to ask about the presence of the Puddle Jumper!! MP5s? Some sort of advanced music or video codec? Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Am i the only one that thnks Ra looks unspeakably goofy? It looks like he can lift up his mask (via that beard/joystick) and do a passable dark Helmet inpersonation. "Fuck! Even in an alternate reality, I always get killed!"
Well I don't think he looks goofy. Actually that mask is QUITE effective in the movie. I think the one in the picture isn't exactly the same as the movie one though. Ra's outfit is definately... ornate.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yeah, the mask works great in the movie. Back when Ra was a creepy alien and not just a horribly goofy CGI snake in someone's belly.
...and "ornate" is certainly an apt word. Ra is the Liberache of Gu'Auld.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Oh... you are one of those people!?! You like the movie over the series!?!
Frankly I thought the movie was crap-tacular when I saw it in ?1994?
It's only after watching season 1 and 2 of SG1 - a few years ago I went and got it out again from the video store - and with the 'new' back-story from the series it made the movie just that much better! Viewing it in the light of the series and just turning a blind-eye to the bits that just don't 'jibe' too well.
The whole 'parasite' thing still works IMO. Maybe the Ra Goa'uld took over an Asgard host and THEN a human host. Or you can just ignore what the 'parasite' looks like in the movie and it all works nicely.
Still probably one of the best 'movie-to-series' crossovers (along with Buffy: The Vampire Slayer) there has been.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Oh... you are one of those people!?! You like the movie over the series!?! The whole 'parasite' thing still works IMO. Maybe the Ra Goa'uld took over an Asgard host and THEN a human host. Or you can just ignore what the 'parasite' looks like in the movie and it all works nicely.
I like the movie unto itself and as an introduction to the series just fine. I much prefer to think of RA as a wholly diffrent species than the TV-show Goa'uld. Like mabye he was something unique or poossibly the final stage of what the Goa'uld worm-thingies look like when they're all grown up (after several thousand years of sarcophagus restorations, at any rate).
The Goa'uld are the perfect example of a cool group of aliens being explained into complete boredom and new-more mysterious and deadly- villans having to be constantly brought in to keep the show intresting. Very Borg-like in their over-use working against them as characters.
I cant reconcile O'Neil from the TV show being Kurt Russell's character either- they're two seperate people to me. Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
They seem to have joked about the fact that the two O'niel(l)s are very different. In the movie, his name is spelled O'Niel, but in the series it's O'Niell. He's joked before that there's another Col. O'Niel out there who spells his name with one L and that he has no sense of humor at all.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
O'Neil. O'Neill.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
After watching the series in which the Goa'uld are worms vs the movie where they appear to be a regular alien I can only assume the alien we saw in the movie was the host. The Goa'uld had previously used the Unas with not much success maybe that species which was going extinct somehow was the next host. Ra found ancient Earth and thought: "Humans, taste like chicken and will make great hosts." He could have told his fellow Goa'uld, "Want to live? Promise to serve me and I will direct you to Earth." Thus elevating Ra as the highest system lord. And Goa'uld that wanted a new host would have to pledge their allegiance to him.
The only mistake the movie made was showing the alien just before the nuclear blast. Otherwise everything would have worked out perfectly.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Mabye the "alien" is how the human host looks after a few thousand years of sarcogaphus treatments- the body deteorated into that form without regular "sleep" in the chamber....
Some damn thing!
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Refresh my memory... how did they find out about Ra's backstory in the first place? Did someone mind link with him somehow, or did one of the Abydonians tell them? Unless it came directly from Ra's mind, whoever told them could just have been wrong.
Or did they read it on the wall of some building? Even then... it could have been propaganda designed to make everyone think that Ra was the last one.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
That was the idea of it, yes. In the movie, daniel read the story from the wall in the catacombs, whereby Ra was "the last of a dying race". He came across the humans, found that the "Crying Game" guy was a much better host for him and took him, and proceeded to enslave the population. We then forbade reading and writing to make the Abydonians forget the truth.
In the series, Daniel posits that Ra lied about his being the last one, so that his human subjects wouldn't think that the other snakeheads were like him. Fandom has since suggested that Ra's "there can be only one" rhetoric was abandonned by the Goa'uld after Abydos had been populated, as other System Lords gained in power.
At least it's not like the Stargate novel sequels, that have Jack and Daniel fighting Hathor and other "gods" who were really just a sucession of humans in Ra's entourage that had been embodying their namesakes for generations.
Mark
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Breaking news: With RDA being in the show only on an occasional basis for the ninth season, the rest of the gang will get beefed up by some more beefcake: Ben Browder, formerly of Farscape, is joining the regular cast.
I don't mind this; Anderson's becoming a remote presence has left the three remaining characters with an unbalanced team chemistry. Where I liked Jonas when he was here, I also hope that adding another member to SG-1 (especially Browder, whom we know is a capable sci-fi actor) will restore the dynamic to something we can like again. And if we can get Davis back as Hammond, I think they can easily go another year.
I'd had a far-flung wish they'd promote Colonel Dixon of SG-13 to the flagship unit - Adam Baldwin rocked in that role. Ah well, this'll do.
Mark
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"I'd had a far-flung wish they'd promote Colonel Dixon of SG-13 to the flagship unit - Adam Baldwin rocked in that role."
Well, if we're really lucky, he'll be too busy working on a revived "Firefly".
One can always hope.
(Although, on that same note, as long as Ben Browder is a regular on SG-1, no-one could revive "Farscape" even if they wanted to. But it's certainly better than nothing.)
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Someone on Exisle posted a picture of Browder next to Michael Shanks. The resemblance is quite eerie.
Posted by TheWoozle (Member # 929) on :
A spinoff show with the Prometheus or other starship would be cool.
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