Hi Guys I was just watching my DVD�s of BG season 2.0 and I have a question. In show are both sides of the flight pods being used? I am under the impression that only the port side flight is being using and the starboard flight pod is out of commission. Just wondering and thanks ;-)
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
This goes in General Sci-Fi -- not the Trek section.
I am not a mod, so I can't move the thread, so I'll answer it. If I remember correctly, the starboard pod was converted into a gift shop as part of the conversion into a museum. Beyond that, I don't recall.
--Jonah
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Peregrinus recalls correctly. The starboard flight pod was converted into the museum for the squadron of Viper Mk. II's, and the launch bays were turned into a gift shop. Also, the pod was damaged when the Cylon heavy raider crashed into the ship back in "Scattered".
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Ah, yes forgot about the raider impact.
--Jonah
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
On a related note, has anyone noticed that Pegasus doesn't have to retract her pods as Galactica does? I haven't seen all the episodes, but at least one I've seen shows Peggy jumping with her pods spread wide open...
Mark
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Well, has Galactica ever retracted them outside of the miniseries?
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Sure. Anytime she's jumped.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I've never seen it happen.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Doesn't mean it didn't happen.
We know Galactica can't jump with flightpods open. Hence, pods must be closed.
We know Galactica has jumped several times. Hence, pods were closed.
I think "33" and whatever the 2nd season opener probably would be the best bets.
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
Yeah, they've never depicted it again the way they did the first time. And even then, in the miniseries, they show the whole sequence of the pods retracting, and on the shot of the ship actually jumping, they're fully extended again.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
That's what I'm saying. Or, I guess, since I didn't actually say it, that's what I'm getting at. We've seen Galactica jump since and it seems to me the pods are always extended.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Okay then... Maybe it was a big deal because they were in a nebula, or just outside one?
Mark
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
That's possible, considering the fact that we still don't (and likely never will) know in any way how their FTL drives work. Perhaps it's some form of super acceleration, where the ship would be moving at such an incredible speed that even single atoms would annihilate it, requiring a near vacuum to jump (the ship's hull would be built to withstand it, but not Vipers and the interior). Or, since FTL jumps appear to be near instantaneous, perhaps it super accelerates only in the very beginning before actually "jumping." Maybe that's what the bright white/red/blue light is. And the blue/red does seem to imply a red/blue shift, though somebody would have to check to see if the colors actually corresponded to when the ships were jumping towards or away from the camera.
It's all well and good to get rid of technobabble to focus on a story, but technobabble does serve a function in at least it (if done properly) informs you as to what's possible and consistent and what's not. Sure, how the FTL drive works isn't a big deal really, but then you have issues like this, which stem from not knowing why the technology that enables the premise in the first place works.
Oh well.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Yeah, but there's no issue here, unless you think that the position of the flight pods has some impact on the story.
Anyway, there's more than enough molecules in "empty" space to cause problems at high speeds.
But, beyond that, it seems clear that the FTL is of the instantaneous space warp variety, traveling from A to C without passing through B. How else could you jump inside a mountain, for instance?
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
And more to the point, how could their transponder still work afterwards?!
Posted by FawnDoo (Member # 1421) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lee: And more to the point, how could their transponder still work afterwards?!
I think the guy who writes these things up at Battlestar Wiki hit upon a good idea with this one: their transponder might have appeared in an air pocket inside the mountain, leaving it intact and able to transmit.
Regarding the flight pod issue (and this is just idle speculation on my part) I always took it as a limitation of the Galactica's older systems, not colonial FTL tech as a whole. I figured that Galactica's older drive could only open a wormhole of a specific width, and to make the ship fit through it they had to reduce the forward profile hence the pods being swung inboard before a jump. After all Pegasus doesn't seem to retract it's pods (not sure if it could anyway - they look fixed, and are there recesses for them in the main hull?) and other fleet ships don't seem to retract anything: even the huge "Space park" wheel ship jumps "as is". I guess I always put the pod thing down to Galactica being the battlestar equivalent of an old, cranky, tired F reg Ford Fiesta.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Or the entire raptor displaced everything of it's size in the mountain.
In other words, the raptor crew didn't die instantly, but suffocated to death.
This could account for the transponder still being active. The entire ship was intact and fully functioning.
Of course, where does the mass go the ship displaced? I don't have an answer.
Posted by FawnDoo (Member # 1421) on :
quote:Originally posted by HerbShrump: Or the entire raptor displaced everything of it's size in the mountain.
Not according to RDM in the podcast...again from Battlestar Wiki:
"RDM says in the podcast that the Raptor Jumping into the mountain wasn't like "swapping" spatial matter between two points: like a teleporter accident, the Raptor and its crew were horrifically merged into the rock itself.".
Suggests that it was more BrundleRaptor than mass displacement.
quote:Originally posted by HerbShrump: This could account for the transponder still being active. The entire ship was intact and fully functioning.
Then again if the entire ship was still functioning they could jump again: even with no co-ordinates it's better to try a "blind jump" a la Cain and the Pegasus than suffocate inside a mountain. However, from what RDM says the ship was blended inside the mountain and the crew ended up looking like the Thing from Fantastic 4.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Bit of a Larson connection, then - there was a guy who could walk through walls/rock in a Buck Rogers ep. Then, there's that guy from the Belgariad. . .
Posted by machf (Member # 1233) on :
Hey, guys, regarding the pods... last night TNT Latin America premiered Season 2 of the series, and I noticed in the scene after Gaeta has managed to calculate the coordinates to "undo" the jump and Tigh orders to recall the Vipers and jump, when the jump finishes, the Galactica is shown with the pods retracted and slowly extending them back...
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