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Posted by Chris (Member # 71) on :
 
Someone's been mis-numbering episodes, nyah.

Helo saves humanity's soul. And Adama is grateful. Baltar loves all them Cylon wimminz.

Disease carried by rats? Black Plague anyone? Dates from around the time the Thirteenth Tribe left Kobol... they went (back?) to Earth and carried a plague. If this is the case, then BSG might potentially take place Around the year 4300 ish.

As a side note, I wonder if all baseships have different colour-coded interiors? The dead one had green wall lights and Baltar's has blue.. Or maybe its mood lighting.
 

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Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
 
No, it's episode 7. Remember that the season started with two episodes in a row, which is why BSG has aired one more episode so far than other shows.

I think the baseship's green light was for mood, since the ship itself is apparently alive(kind of ironic that a race of machines use living creatures as ships, while humans use machines) and feeling ill.

A whole bunch of holes have been pointed out in the plot, but I still liked it. Seeing the Raptors using their guns and missiles was especially great. I also really love the dreamlike way the scenes on the baseship are edited.
 

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Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
Maybe the Basestars evolved from mood rings
 

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Posted by Chris (Member # 71) on :
 
According to the Gateworld episode list, this is episode 6.
 

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Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
 
I think David Eick said he considered the first two eps to be one, but technically they're two. They have seperate IMDb listings and all the bugetty business is based on that.
 

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Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
 
According to the Sci-Fi Channel's website, it's episode 7.

Me, I'm rather annoyed that the Colonials passed up a wonderful opportunity to show the Cylons that they're not all that bad. You know, making them all better and talking to them and stuff.

--Jonah
 

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Posted by Chris (Member # 71) on :
 
Well, I suppose that would give the season a "full" 20 episodes (what happened to 22 episodes a season? kids these days...).
 

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Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
I was rather angry that the plan to infect the cylons failed. Call me heartless but hey, didn't the cylons massacre the populations of 12 planets?
 

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Posted by Chris (Member # 71) on :
 
But, see, the unseen 5 models would probably get pissed about killing off the seen 7 and go all apeshit.
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
Unless the five planted the beacon in the first place...
 

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Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
Oh boy.....
Battlestar's Shackles Offend Viewer

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I was appalled and disgusted by a scene in the Nov. 10 episode of Battlestar Galactica.

[Warning: Spoiler ahead.]

I could not believe my eyes as a captured Cylon, an African-American man, was escorted to face the humans in chains and poles! As an African-American, I found this scene racist and extremely insensitive.

It is bad enough that African-Americans have minor roles in the show as it is�in the original show, the roles of Col. Tigh and Boomer were played by African-Americans. But even if the show had many more people of color portraying main characters, it is unacceptable to show us in a manner reminiscent of runaway slaves being brought back in shackles to face their white masters.

What were the writers and producers thinking? I was a fan of Battlestar Gallactica, but this was too much. Needless to say, I will find something else to watch Friday nights.


Toni Reynolds
[address withheld by request]

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I can't even describe how stupid this is. He was shackled not because he was black, but because he was a Cylon! Not to mention that they showed one of the white male Cylons in shackles as well. Ergh.
 

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Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
I love it how people can be offended by a piece of fiction yet when it comes to real life problems in our country everyone doesn't seem to care. Mr. Reynolds can take his complaint and shove it up his ass.
 

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
Oh. My. God. All I can say is this:

I am appalled and disgusted by this man's attempt to resurrect racial hatred where there is none. This just goes to prove that people will complain about anything that they think might offend them, even if they're not watching the damn show. (Take, for example, the huge jump in complaints to the FCC about "indecency" on television... all coming from a single lobbying group.)

I'd be willing to bet that if it were Number Six in those shackles, he'd have thought it was hot instead. Fucking asshole.

EDIT: Thank goodness someone's already submitted a thoughtful and reasonable reply.
 

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Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
 
Okay, I bounced this off of three of my close friends who happen to have brown skin. Two of them are hard-core s/f fans, and one isn't. All three thought this was the most bullshit excuse to be an Angry Black Man� they'd ever heard of.

And the two who watch BSG pointed out the same thing that occurred to me: Bill Adama is played by a Latino actor, and why didn't Mr. Reynolds have a problem with that aspect of the scene? And also the crap that the Korean-American actress playing Sharon has had to endure as the different copies of THAT Cylon. Where's Mr. Reynolds' outrage at that?

We all know that the scene would have played exactly the same if ANY of the other surviving Cylons had been brought in for questioning. We all need to e-mail Ron Moore and the Sci-Fi Channel to let them know that those viewers WITH functioning brains had no problem with that aspect of the episode, and to not let it scare them in how they film future episodes.

--Jonah
 

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Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Words cannot describe the shortsightedness of that letter.
If anything he's the one being racist and indeed sexist for complaining only about the single african american man (whose really neither) being mistreated while ignoring the MUCH worse treatment of asian and caucasian women while in custody (at least one of the guards being black if my memory serves.)

While I won't pretend to know the minds of the writers and producers, I doubt very much that they were at all thinking of the slave trade when they used Simon as the Cylon stool pigeon.
More likely they were thinking that they hadn't been giving the actor much of a role since "The Farm" and decided to give him something to do for a change.

Of course the slavery point is rendered moot when we see caucasian Cylons shackled in exactly the same manner; unless of course you want to dredge up Roman enslavment of pre-christian europeans and the ownership of white slaves by African citizens of Rome.

I wonder if he considers the enslavment as Africans as being more sensitive because it's more recent, that it's apart of his heritage or because we still have photos of it?

I'm reasonably sure (though not 100%) that Japan enslaved Koreans during WWII (or was it just the Chinese?), so by that standard Sharon's treatment would be more relevant since it's both more recent and we have more photographic records of the era.
Or dose it not count as that's just Asians doing it to other Asians?

You have to wonder if the writers chose Simon knowing it'd get a dumb cry out outrage and hoping that enough people had their heads screwed on tightly enough to see it for what it was.
 

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 

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You have to wonder if the writers chose Simon knowing it'd get a dumb cry out outrage and hoping that enough people had their heads screwed on tightly enough to see it for what it was.

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