Has anyone else seen this yet? I rather enjoyed it, to the point of thinking this might be the best superhero movie yet, IMO. I didn't know about the Nick Fury bit at the end until after I saw it, thank god for YouTube.
Supposedly the cast is signed for two more movies, meaning War Machine will be making an appearance. Looking forward to it.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Loved it. Good to see a relatively mature film with a mature cast. Downey is superbly cast in a superhero film reamarkably absent of superhero hallmarks, such as pithy dialogue and epic super battles. The climactic battle was similarly small-scale, and I disagree with the criticism that a fully-powered Iron Man should have faced the Iron Monger in a gigantic fight.
This movie has trilogy all over it and I guess leaks into Marvel's effort to portray a unified movie universe on screen. The following parts promise a delving into Tony's alcoholism (which should be unique amongst superhero films) and his eventual teamup with Rhodes as War Machine. I don't know what's up with immediately "outing" Stark as Iron Man, tossing aside the character's initial cover as his own bodyguard as in the comics. Stark revealed himself as Iron Man in the comics much later. As for Fury, I doubt this cameo has any real bearing on the trilogy, though it'd really confuse some people.
I do hope the remaining parts will be shot and released back to back. I hate waiting 2-3 years between good franchise installments, dammit!
Mark
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
The second part of the trilogy is due in 2010, according to Wikipedia. It'd be nice if the third part was released in 2011 or even later in the year of 2010.
I've also read that Downey has a cameo as Stark in the upcoming Hulk movie as well.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
I saw this movie Saturday night. We thought it was awesome. A little predictable, like I knew he would have to rely on his original power unit for some reason. I missed the Nick Fury scene, I heard about Samuel L Jackson cameo but didn't know it was after the credits. I figured there might be something after the first part of the end credits before the regular scrolling credits.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
It looks like Marvel are looking to redefine the concept of a movie franchise and that Nick Fury scene looks like a huge foreshadowing of things to come. Then there's the fact that Downey has a cameo in the new Hulk movie. I'm glad Marvel are the ones doing this sort of cross pollination rather than DC. I'd really hate to see Nolan's Batman meet Singer's Superman on the silver screen. There something about DC characters that makes them very hard to adapt to cinema and even harder to incorporate them with each other. I suppose with Marvel, having Stan Lee at the centre of most of it for so long helped keep the various titles reasonably cohesive. The DC characters just got thrown together.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I dunno... Personally, I'm not a fan of mixing major superhero archetypes, as it loses credibility. I *like* that folks like Batman and Iron Man have rely on gadgets to save the day versus villains also relying on technology, however far-fetched it may be. I don''t want to see the hyper-techy Iron Man mix it up with a Viking god and his magic hammer. I want to see him deal with someone like the Mandarin and his alien tech rings, with War Machine at his side.
Mark
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I still want a revival of Rom: Spaceknight.
Yes...I am just that much of a geek.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Wow, havent read that in decades (agreed, it's good potential as a stand alone story)
what about The Micronauts (FFFFFOOOOOOOOORRRRRCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE COOOOMMMMMMANNNDDERRRRRRR!)
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: I dunno... Personally, I'm not a fan of mixing major superhero archetypes, as it loses credibility. I *like* that folks like Batman and Iron Man have rely on gadgets to save the day versus villains also relying on technology, however far-fetched it may be. I don''t want to see the hyper-techy Iron Man mix it up with a Viking god and his magic hammer. I want to see him deal with someone like the Mandarin and his alien tech rings, with War Machine at his side.
Mark
Like I said, if anyone is going to do it, better that it be Marvel than DC. The Marvel universe lends itself more to group stories much more than the DC characters, the X-Men being a prime example and the main reason (mutants) it's even plausible.
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
Great movie. Nuff said.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
quote:Originally posted by WizArtist II: I still want a revival of Rom: Spaceknight.
Yes...I am just that much of a geek.
I second that! I still have every issue, including the "Spaceknights" sequel miniseries. Might be tricky, since Mattel owns the design, and not Marvel. *grump*
--Jonah
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
To further my image as an "Ultra-Geek", I too have all the issues, even so far as appearances in other issues as I become aware of them. I am holding out hope for a revival with the Galadorians and Spaceknights appearing in the "Annihilation: Conquest" theme Marvel is running. There have been numerous appearances in this storyline and I REALLY hope they don't just off the whole group in the end.
Have you seen THIS site?
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
You have the issue of the Incredible Hulk where Rick Jones and Marlo get married -- and Rom and Brandy show up?
--Jonah
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
That one I have not found yet. Do you have the issue number? (Pwease oh pwease!)
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I suddenly feel I'm not quite geeky enough for this crowd. I'm off to watch competitive sports!
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
quote:Originally posted by WizArtist II: That one I have not found yet. Do you have the issue number? (Pwease oh pwease!)
#418
--Jonah
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by WizArtist II: I still want a revival of Rom: Spaceknight.
Yes...I am just that much of a geek.
But who would you get to be Starshine? Or Hybrid? ....Mr Coombs could do that role nicely. Rom and Brandy also attend Rick's wedding. Hybrid had a cameo in The New Avengers recently- all the mutants that lost their powers were identified by Shield and hybrid was one listed and shown on a giant monitor. No shit- Hybrid. Somebody at Marvel is a Rom fan.
I have waited my ENTIRE LIFE for an Iron Man movie and I was in no way disapointed.
Okay, I'd have preferred a white Nick Fury with the gray hair, but an "ultimates" Fury sits fine with me too.
Seriously- I have 1-300 of the first series, all of the Tales of suspense run and...I have most of them signed by their artists. I've got a cherry piece that John Romita Sr and Jr drew just for me of both Iron Man and Tony Stark- framed in my living room.
I am TEH IRON GEEK.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
They're making an Iron Fist movie...without Power Man. I cry.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
I am TEH IRON GEEK.
I bow humbly to your Extreme Geekiness.
I have just got the Rick Jones wedding on Ebay.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
I recommend you also get the previous issue for the bachelor party...
--Jonah
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Plus a few issues prior- the skrulls are trying to interrogate Rick and are berating him as Captain Mar-Vell, Bucky and Rom. Rick's a great character as written by Peter David in The Hulk.
I got a nice She-Hulk sketch from artist Kerion Dwyer (soo spelled wrong) from that run. Got waterlogged in hurricane Andrew though. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Amazing....just...(speachless)
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Jason, THIS is just for you.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Hawt.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
Too big, nah...from that like an actual issue?
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Don't know if it is from an actual issue. Found it on a comics forum. It is a high enough quality work to have been from an actual issue though.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yeah...Power Girl's got...er...muscles. Not my thing, really.
No....give me the small town girl-next-door with a pathological hatred for shape-shifting, magic-weilding aliens that suck your brains out.
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
Really was a good movie. Not oscar material (but has any superhero movie, save Jack N's Batman?) but still exciting (and soooo much to speculate about, especially Mister Former Dead Jedi master turned Bad Ass Patch wearer... Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Yeah...Power Girl's got...er...muscles. Not my thing, really.
No....give me the small town girl-next-door with a pathological hatred for shape-shifting, magic-weilding aliens that suck your brains out.
Are you still sweating for that Mercury Girl Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well....I am now. golly.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I went to see it last weekend and was blown away. Downey was perfect for Stark. They even managed to make the development of the armor fairly believable and interesting.
"Come on... you know this isn't the wierdest thing you've caught me doing".
"If you spray me again when I'm not actually on fire, I swear I'm donating you to a city college."
Best two lines.
From what I've read, Marvel has, in the past, had a policy against crossing over characters from various titles. Apparently that's changed if Stark will be in Hulk. I thought I'd read that Reed Richards was going to show up somewhere... IMDB says that in an early draft, it was revealed that Stark built Dr. Octavius' arms seen in Spidey 2. I thought that was neat...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I think it was more a studio decision not to cross-over characters: someone cast in cameo might not be available years later to reprise a role in a feature (obviously not a big concern if the movie is a hit or if the actors are signed into multiple movie contracts, but I doubt a daredevil/Spider-Man team up is likely).
Though there is that line about Dr. strange in Spidey 2, so it's not completely isolated. OTOH, if New York were really so chock full of superhumans, they'd run into each other on a daily basis...hell, the Avengers would probably have started out as a superhuman bowling league or something.
Mutants would have a whole online community (MySpace for the geniticly altered).
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
You know....I'm suprised no one is talking about the more obvious gag in Iron Man: one of The Mandarin's rings on the terrorist leader (the one going on about conquoring te world) and how the terrorist cell was called "The Ten Rings".
In the comics, the Mandarin uses trusted henchmen to do his bidding- each employing one of the Mandarin's power-rings (which each have a diffrent power). If the henchman gets killed (or defeated) the ring teleports back to the Mandarin (who, it seems can "see" through the rings).
I doubt it's anything more than a "if you know" kinda thing, but still, the guy is Iron Man's arch nemesis.
Just like how Happy Hogan is Tony's bodyguard (the guy racing Tony across the desert)- he's fated to marry Pepper, spwan some kids and -years later- get killed.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I saw Iron Man roughly two weeks ago and it returned my faith in Superhero movies after the incoherent mess that was Spiderman 3.
I'm also excited about the Incredible Hulk and this attempt to unify the movies under a single universe. Also I hear there's an idea for a Justice League movie, but it seems to be in production hell.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Let's hope it stays there where it belongs.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Indeed...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
It was tried as a TV movie which, thankfully, never aired. You can still find bootlegs of it at various cons though....it's actually worse than the unreleased Fantastic Four movie from the '90's.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I just saw Iron Man last night and I have to say that it is excellent. Robert Downey Jr. was PERFECT as Tony Starks. The rest of the cast seemed to fit equally well with their roles. There was only one main scene where I thought the FX were off, when Pepper is running from the baddie. I don't know if it was the lighting or what, but it just screamed "Blue Screen". Otherwise, the FX seemed to blend quite well and didn't dominate the movie the way it might have (ala Transformers). Heck, I'd even pay FULL price to see it again. (which is probably the highest compliment I can give a movie nowadays)
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune:
"Come on... you know this isn't the wierdest thing you've caught me doing".
"If you spray me again when I'm not actually on fire, I swear I'm donating you to a city college."
Best two lines.
Rhodey: You're three hours late. Tony: " I was doing a piece for Vanity Fair..." Screamin' funny.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by WizArtist II: I still want a revival of Rom: Spaceknight.
oh my. Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
It's really a shame that I wasn't born RICH instead of so incredibly GOOD LOOKING.
To further my geekdom, I'm actually in the process of creating an issue by issue synopsis of the entire Rom series listing all the pertinent 'first appearance' and 'death of' information.
Yeah....I really need to get a life.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
Flare the comic ... followed by Flare the movie. Not that I've been compared to an actor, like ... "you know you look like..." no never.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Followed by Flare: the toilet paper and Flare: the flamethrower.
I'd forgotten how many Marvel characters asses Rom kicked in that 75 issue run. Always nice to see the X-Men go down. The second Hybrid story was the first time Rogue thought of turning hero...a big character development for a relativly obscure book.
Hey Wiz- check out Doctor Strange (volume 2) to see Dormammu call forth all of marvel's top evil sorcerers for a meeting- there's a Dire Wraith queen in there- years after Rom supposedly sent them all (and Wraithworld) to Limbo.
There's a four parter Avengers story wherein Hercules, the BLack Knight and Wasp get trapped in Limbo by Kang and have to kill hundreds of Wraiths to survive...somewhere in the 280's I think. It gives a pretty clear picture of what the Limbo dimension is and how it is the worst prison ever- nothing stays dead there, there's nothing to do and no escape....sucks to be a Dire Wraith. Keeping with the theme, here's a Dire Wraith figure that, sadly, was cancelled prior to production. Still no Rick Jones figure either.
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Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Was that the "Volxx" issue? I haven't found that one yet, but if what I 'heard on the internet'...(insert idiot remark here) is true, Volxx could still shapeshift, but couldn't use sorcery since the fount of the Dire Wraith power was Wraithworld on which Rom started his own little 'Green Movement' before sending it to Limbo.
As far as who Rom matched up with just off the top of my head:
The X-men
The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants
Power Man & Iron Fist
The Incredible Hulk (reduced his gamma radiation levels enough to allow the Bruce Banner persona to gain control)
Ego - The Living Planet
Galactus (was able to bargain with him to save Galador becoming a temporary Herald)
Jack of Hearts
Powerhouse (drained him of power)
The Thing (who was entranced by the Dire Wraiths. Rom used his Neutralizer and temporarily reverted him back to human form)
Gladiator (basicly stood toe to toe with him in battle)
The Metal Master
Most encounters with the Marvel Heroes started as misunderstandings and Rom typically held back while trying to explain his mission to them as they went all out against him. Yeah the Rogue thing to me was the turning point for her because she had never known someone so decent and noble and that sent her away from the dark side.
Jason, when I get my little document done, I'll let you know and send it to you. Its a simple WordDoc at this point.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Ok, after getting that colouring gig and doing my homework I thought I had made myself reasonable knowledgeable in comic book lore...but nothing of the last two posts made any sense to me and you know what? I'm actually kinda relived.
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