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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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I got this on a mailing list. Sounds pretty good. SPOILER!!!! s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s sPreview of Episodes II and III Episode II Release Date: 2003 Timeline: 10 years after The Phantom Menace Major Events: The Clone Wars The Marriage of Anakin and Padme Amidala The Fall of the Galactic Republic Anakin Skywalker, now 19, grows into young manhood under the tutelage of Obi-Wan Kenobi. But Anakin becomes impatient, believing that his master isn't teaching him fast enough. Their relationship becomes strained, and is made worse when both men fall in love with Padme Amidala, Queen of Naboo. Anakin turns to Supreme Chancellor Palpatine for friendship. Palpatine, who has been following Anakin's career since he was a boy, shows him great fondness and generosity. Unbeknownst to Anakin, or anyone else, the Chancellor has begun to dabble in the Dark Side of The Force. Episode II also revolves around a war -- a conflict much greater in scale and more devastating than the Siege of Naboo. George Lucas has revealed very little about the CLONE WARS, except to say they were the primary cause of the fall of the Republic. Some speculate that an evil power (Darth Sidious?) collects a cross-section of the Galaxy's "scum and villainy," with the intent of using their genetic make-up to clone an army of savage warriors. Others believe that the Wars are fought against the Mandelorians - Imperial bounty hunter Boba Fett claimed that the Jedi wiped out his clan during this period - and Lucas has confirmed that a young Fett will appear in this episode. In any event, the Clone Wars are so damaging to the Republic that the Galactic Senate votes to give Chancellor Palpatine unlimited military and political powers. Obi-Wan becomes a general, and fights side by side with his friend Prince Bail Organa of Alderaan. Anakin, too, shows great heroism in the Wars. Many of the Galaxy's 10,000 Jedi are killed in battle, leaving their |forces depleted. Palpatine ultimately leads the Republic to victory - or does he? Now that he has tasted unbridled power, the Chancellor has no intention of giving up it up. Flush from his victories in the Clone Wars, Anakin marries Padme, to Obi-Wan's great dismay. In a magnificent ceremony, Anakin becomes a full-fledged Jedi Knight, and Obi-Wan a Jedi Master. Palpatine consolidates his power and delves deeper into the Dark Side of The Force, as the Republic continues to collapse. Weakened by the Wars, the Jedi are in no position to stop him. Episode III Release Date: 2005 Timeline: Several years after Episode II Major Events: The Rise of the Empire Anakin's Transformation into Darth Vader The Jedi Purge The Birth of Luke and Leia Events take a downward turn in this darkest of the Star Wars tales. Palpatine has proclaimed himself Emperor. His New Order rises to power, with the help of The Dark Side of The Force. Palpatine is supported by the many greedy people who benefit from his rule and don't want to see the return of the Republic. The once beautiful planet of Coruscant becomes the seat of the new Galactic Empire. Anakin Skywalker falls deeper and deeper under Palpatine's corrosive influence. He becomes alienated from his wife (who hides from him the fact she is pregnant). His feelings for Obi-Wan Kenobi grow into an obsessive hatred. In the pivotal scene of the film the two Jedi duel. Obi-Wan's cuts off Anakin's hand with his lightsaber (just as Vader cuts off Luke's hand in Empire). Anakin falls into a pit of molten lava (just as Darth Maul fell into a pit of molten metal in Phantom Menace). Obi-Wan quickly pulls him out of the lava, but Anakin is near death, most of his body burned beyond recognition. Anakin is slowly nursed back to life by the Emperor. His damaged body parts are replaced by implants and biotech devices. In order to breath (his lungs were burned to a crisp), Anakin must wear a special body suit and helmet. He becomes, in effect, a cyborg. With the loss of his human form, he also loses his humanity. Now that the Sith Lords are extinct, Emperor Palpatine declares himself Dark Lord of the Sith and recruits Anakin as his apprentice. Anakin, completely won over to the Dark Side, renames himself Darth Vader. Together, they set about to eliminate the last vestiges of the Republic -- the Jedi Knights. The Jedi Purge, led by Darth Vader, results in the annihilation of all but two of the Galaxy's remaining Jedi Knights, Masters and Padawan learners (many of whom were killed years before in the Clone Wars). Only Obi-Wan and Yoda manage to survive the massacre. Before going into hiding, Obi-Wan and Yoda travel to Naboo in an attempt to protect Padme. Unbeknownst to Vader, Padme has given birth to twins -- a boy and a girl. Recognising that the royal children will become Vader's greatest threat -- and the Republic's only hope -- the Queen and the Jedi conspire to hide them. Obi-Wan brings the girl, Leia, to his best friend, King Bail Organa of Alderaan, who adopts her as his daughter. Leia is accompanied by her parents' favourite droids, R2D2 and C-3PO. The boy, Luke, is taken in by Obi-Wan's brother, Owen Lars, a moisture farmer on Tatooine. Padme remains on Naboo to help her people resist the coming onslaught of the Empire (her ultimate fate is as yet unknown). Yoda escapes to the remote swamp planet of Dagobah, where he disguises himself as a deranged hermit. Obi-Wan returns to Tatooine as the mysterious loner "Old Ben". There he waits, living in a cave in the Dune Sea desert, for destiny to reunite him with Luke Skywalker. ------------------ "Try not. Do. Or Do not. There is no try." -Yoda, Jedi Master.
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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
Member # 318
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A couple of points:10,000 Jedi is a lot more than I expected, even for the whole galaxy I thought Darth Sidious was Chancellor Palpatine, apparently not. Luke's adopted father was Obe Wan's brother. Hmmmmm. Didn't know that. ------------------ "Try not. Do. Or Do not. There is no try." -Yoda, Jedi Master.
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Aban Rune
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These events, in whatever order they ultimately appear, are pretty much agreed on already, AFAIK. But Lucas hasn't even finished (probably hasn't hardly even begun) writing the script for eps 2 and 3 yet. Certainly he has an outline in mind, but details simply don't exist yet.Darth Sidious IS Palpatine. I would argue that Anakin will become Vader before the battle at the lava pit and that battle will be the culmination of the Jedi purge. Most of the other Jedi will already be dead, and in a final battle with Obi-Wan, whom Vader has grown to hate, he gets knocked into the lava pit. I don't think we'll see Vader in his armour until the last scene of Ep 3. Also, Obi-Wan probably drops Yoda at Dagobah on his way to Tatooine with Luke. Luke says that Dagobah seems familiar to him when he lands there in Ep 5. ------------------ "A gathering of Angels appeared above my head. They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said..." -Styx Aban's Illustration www.thespeakeasy.com/alanfore
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Nim
Member # 205
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10000 Jedi was the estimated jedi population on Coruscant alone by the time of TPM. I think you underestimate the size of a galaxy. Do you really think the Jedi could found a galaxy-wide institution of religion and diplomacy if there only were 1 Jedi on every other 2 million planets or so? The procentage is probably similar to the world of today in the Marvel comics, where a small procentage of the world are mutants, probably about the same figure. And the difference between a Jedi and a "normal" specimen of a species is pretty similar too, except that Jedi don't get the same variety of powers that X-mutants could get. ------------------ I'm not an atheist, I'm a maybeist� [This message has been edited by Nimrod (edited May 11, 2000).]
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TSN
Member # 31
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I don't recall seeing any molten metal in the pit Maul fell into...And, as mentioned, Palpatine and Sidious are the same guy, which rules out the idea of Palpatine "starting to dabble" in the Dark Side. Also, the Sith Lords wouldn't become extinct so Palpatine can declare himself a dark lord; he already is one. There's nothing about who will be Sidious' apprentice in the time between Maul and Anakin. And there doesn't seem to be any mention of the Clone Wars' involving clones there... I doubt that Obi-Wan has family on Tatooine. He didn't seem to have any recognition of the planet in TPM. I would assume Luke's "aunt" and "uncle" were some relation to Anakin's mother (either one was a blood relation, or possibly a member of a family who were friends w/ her?). Overall, I'd say whoever thought this stuff up, if they wanted to create believable rumors, could have done a much better job... ------------------ "The search and the arrest provided several hours of entertainment in the neighborhood." -"Worm Suspect Arrested", Wired News
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Sol System
Member # 30
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Well, supposedly filming for Episode II starts before too long, so he has to have some rough version of the script hashed out. These rumors are just tossed together speculation, of course, but still.------------------ "Oh, it's an anti-anti-WTO song. It's essentially a pro-Starbucks song. I saw this picture of a guy sticking his foot through a plate-glass window in a Starbucks in Seattle, and he was wearing a Nike. Man, couldn't you just change your shoes?" -- M. Doughty
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Teelie
Member # 280
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As was mentioned, Darth Sidious is Palpatine and he's also a Sith Lord at the time of his apprenticing Darth Maul (Hence the Darth names ). From what I've heard, the Obi-Wan/Anakin-Vader fight is in Ep 3, not 2... still, one would think the magic cure-all, bacta could've helped greatly in repairing much of the now Darth Vader's injuries (especially his lungs/organs. *) unless Palpatine made it so Vader was in a sense, a slave of the Dark Side, forcing or coercing him into letting him control his death.*As to limbs, Luke's arm was lost and needed a prothestic replacement. [Note: At the end of ROTJ, Vader kills Palpatine, then he begins to wheeze and start his death scene, hinting that Palpatine was the one keeping Vader from dying via using the Dark Side of the Force. It would track with how as Vader rebecame Anakin, he started dying, the Emperor is dead, he's returned to the light side, therefore his body starts to die again. Just my theory anyway. ] ------------------ Admin at the trekbbs.com
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Aethelwer
Member # 36
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It might also have to do with all those blue lightning bolts that the Emperor was zapping things with.------------------ Frank's Home Page John Flansburgh: "This song is so old that it's actually featured on our brand new record." John Linnell: "It's one of those year 2000 problems."
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Omega
Member # 91
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Ya think? http://www.theforce.net/swtc There's a in-depth analasys of Anakin's injuries in there somewheres. As for Qui-Gon, how 'bout this: he was hit in the diaphragm, which impaired his breathing. Normally, he would have gone into a healing trance immediately, but he wanted to tell Obi-Wan to train Anakin, so he stayed consious. Then, when he appeared to die, he went into the healing trance, but by then it was too late. He'd done too much damage to his diaphragm by continuing to breathe, and died while in the trance. That's why he didn't disappear. Sound good? And as to the Clone Wars, and how Palpatine managed to kill millions, if not billions, of Jedi, I think he may have cloned as many Jedi as he could, and the clones went insane like Joruus C'Boath. Then you'd have lots of little insane Jedi running around killing each other. ------------------ You are wise, witty, and wonderful, but you spend far too much time reading this sort of trash.
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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
Member # 318
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"but he wanted to tell Obi-Wan to train Anakin, so he stayed consious."Nah, I don't think so. If he could have gone into the healing trance he would have, because then he could have trained Anakin himself and there would be no need to tell Obe Wan to train Anakin. ------------------ "Try not. Do. Or Do not. There is no try." -Yoda, Jedi Master.
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Aban Rune
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Whatever the sabre hit, the blow was quite fatal. By that I mean there was no way Qui-Gon could've recovered from it. Think about it: Maul faked out Qui-Gon and manuvered to get that shot. After pulling the sabre from Jinn's body, Maul had him at his mercy. If Maul didn't know Jinn was finished for sure, he would've taken the opportunity to slice him into tiny pieces while waiting for the energy barrier to drop.------------------ "A gathering of Angels appeared above my head. They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said..." -Styx Aban's Illustration www.thespeakeasy.com/alanfore
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Omega
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Now that I think about it, it seems kinda out of character for a sith lord NOT to slice him into iddy biddy pieces, just for the heck of it. ------------------ You are wise, witty, and wonderful, but you spend far too much time reading this sort of trash.
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Sol System
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It also seems a tad out of character to stand there and gawk as a young Scottish Jedi flips over your head and cuts you in half, as opposed to, oh, I don't know, maybe blocking the thrust or something.------------------ "Oh, it's an anti-anti-WTO song. It's essentially a pro-Starbucks song. I saw this picture of a guy sticking his foot through a plate-glass window in a Starbucks in Seattle, and he was wearing a Nike. Man, couldn't you just change your shoes?" -- M. Doughty
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Nim
Member # 205
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I think Maul expected Kenobi to swing his sabre vertically, at Maul's head, whereas he held his guard too high, eventually losing his lunch. And Park is a scot too, if not more so than McGregor, so 'twas indeed a battle of the scots! Now I see it!!! That's why Jinn died, he was irish. Not at all maul-material! ------------------ I'm not an atheist, I'm a maybeist�
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Teelie
Member # 280
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I don't recall Vader being hit with the bolts, and Luke was hit with many more and much more accurately too. ------------------ Admin at the trekbbs.com
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Aethelwer
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Bah! Just read this page: http://www.theforce.net/swtc/injuries.html ------------------ Frank's Home Page John Flansburgh: "This song is so old that it's actually featured on our brand new record." John Linnell: "It's one of those year 2000 problems."
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