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It wasn't a scare apparently. It was going to happen if they didn't get the guy. I might be wrong, seeing that I read it at 8am this morning on cnn.com
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Well, apparently it was only in the planning stages, but apparently this guy was the key guy in plannining the thing, and the guy who would have built the bomb.
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I wonder what effect this capture will have on the boys who cry 'fascists.'
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I wonder if Rob's chest will contract at all if anyone mentions that the fact that this guy was an American citizen kinda invalidates much of the logic behind draconian immigration restrictions.
Most likely not.
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Interesting how it took three posts before anyone put up a link to an article...
Hey, did you guys hear about that stuff that happened, in that place, w/ that one thing? You know, at that one time, w/ those people? Yeah, that was neat...
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Ahhhh, fission-fusion-fission warheads. Those wacky Soviets! They never DID seem to figure out that cesium 137 is not your happy little playtime friend.
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Over dinner last night, my dad was saying that he'd read what a terrible guy our Cesium-doughboy was. My father was glad that he would be subjected to the same treatment as the other military combatants (i.e. military tribunals and such). To some extent I can see his point. The man was planning to do horrible horrible things to other American citizens. But then Timothy McVeigh actually succeeded in doing horrible things to other American citizens (albeit without foreign sponsorship), and was prosecuted and punished as an American citizen. I may not agree with the terms of his punishment, but at least he did get the speedy, fair and public trial by a jury of his peers he was promised as a United States citizen.
As I understand it, the rules pertaining to classifying anyone as a military combatant apply when the country is at war. I'm sure someone will argue that we are at war with 'terrah.' Arguably, a war against an idea seems to be stretching the definition of war. I just don't know how loosely we can afford to play with the rules when it comes to the treatment of our population. This isn't a definition we want to start slipping.
This guy's a fuckwit, obviously, and rightly deserves a good shin-kicking, but it would seem that we have ample evidence to prosecute him via our criminal justice system. Why not do it this way? Err on the side of civil liberty. If we want to be the good guys, isn't it in our best interests to act accordingly?
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Presumably, so that the Military Men feel they have big penises.
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Timothy McVeigh wasnt working for a foreign army
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The Rosenbergs were convicted in a civil court, although I don't know if espionage for a foreign government could be considered "perfoming an action in the name of a enemy of the state."
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quote:I wonder if Rob's chest will contract at all if anyone mentions that the fact that this guy was an American citizen kinda invalidates much of the logic behind draconian immigration restrictions.
Most likely not.
Not unless you can point me towards a post wherein I advocated draconian immigration restrictions.
And make a reasonable definition of 'draconian.'
"Make an effort to learn to speak the language" = not draconian
"Give us 2 pints of your blood, some tissue samples, and everything you owned when you got here" = draconian
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