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Jay the Obscure
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PAKISTAN FOR BUSH.
July Surprise?


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This spring, the administration significantly increased its pressure on Pakistan to kill or capture Osama bin Laden, his deputy, Ayman Al Zawahiri, or the Taliban's Mullah Mohammed Omar, all of whom are believed to be hiding in the lawless tribal areas of Pakistan. A succession of high-level American officials--from outgoing CIA Director George Tenet to Secretary of State Colin Powell to Assistant Secretary of State Christina Rocca to State Department counterterrorism chief Cofer Black to a top CIA South Asia official--have visited Pakistan in recent months to urge General Pervez Musharraf's government to do more in the war on terrorism. In April, Zalmay Khalilzad, the American ambassador to Afghanistan, publicly chided the Pakistanis for providing a "sanctuary" for Al Qaeda and Taliban forces crossing the Afghan border. "The problem has not been solved and needs to be solved, the sooner the better," he said.

This public pressure would be appropriate, even laudable, had it not been accompanied by an unseemly private insistence that the Pakistanis deliver these high-value targets (HVTs) before Americans go to the polls in November. The Bush administration denies it has geared the war on terrorism to the electoral calendar. "Our attitude and actions have been the same since September 11 in terms of getting high-value targets off the street, and that doesn't change because of an election," says National Security Council spokesman Sean McCormack. But The New Republic has learned that Pakistani security officials have been told they must produce HVTs by the election. According to one source in Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), "The Pakistani government is really desperate and wants to flush out bin Laden and his associates after the latest pressures from the U.S. administration to deliver before the [upcoming] U.S. elections." Introducing target dates for Al Qaeda captures is a new twist in U.S.-Pakistani counterterrorism relations--according to a recently departed intelligence official, "no timetable[s]" were discussed in 2002 or 2003--but the November election is apparently bringing a new deadline pressure to the hunt. Another official, this one from the Pakistani Interior Ministry, which is responsible for internal security, explains, "The Musharraf government has a history of rescuing the Bush administration. They now want Musharraf to bail them out when they are facing hard times in the coming elections." (These sources insisted on remaining anonymous. Under Pakistan's Official Secrets Act, an official leaking information to the press can be imprisoned for up to ten years.)

A third source, an official who works under ISI's director, Lieutenant General Ehsan ul-Haq, informed tnr that the Pakistanis "have been told at every level that apprehension or killing of HVTs before [the] election is [an] absolute must." What's more, this source claims that Bush administration officials have told their Pakistani counterparts they have a date in mind for announcing this achievement: "The last ten days of July deadline has been given repeatedly by visitors to Islamabad and during [ul-Haq's] meetings in Washington." Says McCormack: "I'm aware of no such comment." But according to this ISI official, a White House aide told ul-Haq last spring that "it would be best if the arrest or killing of [any] HVT were announced on twenty-six, twenty-seven, or twenty-eight July"--the first three days of the Democratic National Convention in Boston.

John B. Judis, Spencer Ackerman & Massoud Ansari, The New Republic

Emphasis added.

Via Talking Points Memo

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Diane
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Not too surprising, all things considered. Not that he's getting my vote either way.

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Jason Abbadon
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Mine either although I find the story highly suspect in it's lack of identifiable sources and that no one else I've seen has this story.
With so many people informed they "must have them by the election" it'd be a hard secret to keep fom the other press organization.

Incidentally, Bush's new commercials attack Kerry for not being in attendance in the Senate while he was campaigning- saying that he's neglegent.
Funny, coming from a president that spent 288 days at the ranch.

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bX
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I suspect that the capture of Osama Bin Laden would serve a more cunning purpose than just making W look like a hero or whatever. It would mean CNN will go without commercials for about four hours sorting itself out. And the media would be all focused on hypothesizing about a conjecture about what this will entail for the future of terrorism, etc. And that way nobody will be getting all intense or ask any tough questions examining things like why we went to war in Iraq, or who was really at fault there, or how the hell we hope to make this work with American soldiers/morale of said soldiers getting so badly chewed, or why the country is SO much worse off four years after the present regime took office.
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Nim
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And then the famed spatula shot on Osama, checking his fillings for capsules and whatnot.

"Mr President, what is your vie-"
"- Hold on, son, look at that guy's tongue! Lol!"
"- Yes, but the budget deficienc-"
"- Please! If you'll let me finish, and then you can follow up, alright? Please?"
"- *gront* Very well..."

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Curry Monster
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Nim - Perfectly put.

Just out of curiosity, if the USA had compulsary voting, do you think that the Republicans would ever win anything?

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They would if they supported the repeal of compulsory voting. [Smile]

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Bah.
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Jay the Obscure
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It's not Osama, but...

quote:
Pakistan holds al-Qaida suspect in '98 bombings

U.S. may seek custody;
officials say he gave 'valuable' information


Updated: 9:24 p.m. ET July 29, 2004

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistan has arrested a Tanzanian al-Qaida suspect wanted by the United States in the 1998 bombings at U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the interior minister said Friday. He said the suspect was cooperating and had given authorities "very valuable" information.

Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani � who is on the FBI's list of 22 most wanted terrorists, with a reward of up to $25 million on his head � was arrested Sunday in the eastern city of Gujrat along with at least 15 other people, Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayyat told The Associated Press.

He said Ghailani has given authorities some useful information. Hayyat would not speculate on whether the suspect was planning any attacks in the United States or Pakistan.

The Associated Press

Via Nick Confessore at The American Prospect Online, who, in part, has this to say....

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MAKE THAT A JULY SURPRISE. According to the Associated Press, Pakistan has announced the capture of Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, an al Qaeda terrorist with a $25 million reward on his head, in connection with the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

The AP notes that "Ghailani was arrested on Sunday in the eastern city of Gujrat along with at least 15 others, Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayyat told Pakistan�s Geo television network."

Let's see. He was arrested on Sunday. But the arrests weren't announced until today, a few hours before John Kerry is scheduled to take the podium for his big night.

I think we can safely conclude that The New Republic got things right what it reported this a few weeks ago[.]

The New Republic story now has this Editor's Note....

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[Editor's Note: This afternoon, Pakistan's interior minister, Faisal Saleh Hayyat, announced that Pakistani forces had captured Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, a Tanzanian Al Qaeda operative wanted in connection with the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. The timing of this announcement should be of particular interest to readers of The New Republic. Earlier this month, John B. Judis, Spencer Ackerman, and Massoud Ansari broke the story of how the Bush administration was pressuring Pakistani officials to apprehend high-value targets (HVTs) in time for the November elections--and in particular, to coincide with the Democratic National Convention. Although the capture took place in central Pakistan "a few days back," the announcement came just hours before John Kerry will give his acceptance speech in Boston.]


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Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war.
~ohn Adams

Once again the Bush Administration is worse than I had imagined, even though I thought I had already taken account of the fact that the Bush administration is invariably worse than I can imagine.
~Brad DeLong

You're just babbling incoherently.
~C. Montgomery Burns

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Jason Abbadon
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Neato Frito!

Good that at least ONE of these "top-ten" fuck-o's is caught.

The US really should ask for custody though: the World Court is far too leinent and leaving him overseas is a baaaad idea.

If Bushco was hoping to overshadow Kerry's speach they must be really disapointed: several commentators refered to the speach as "a home run".
(that was on PBS no less!)

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Some stuff that I have found lately that isn't really worth blogging or its own thread, but is all about politics and terror:

The Terror Web, from the New Yorker. A bit overwrought when it comes to talking about the internet, but fascinating otherwise.

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"Al Qaeda is not a hierarchical organization, and never was," Marc Sageman, a psychiatrist, a former C.I.A. case officer, and the author of "Understanding Terror Networks," told me. "It was always a social movement." The latest converts to the cause didn�t train in Afghanistan, and they approach jihad differently. "These local guys are reckless and less well trained, but they are willing to kill themselves, whereas the previous leaders were not," Sageman said. Moreover, as the Spanish attacks showed, the new generation was more interested in committing violence for the sake of immediate political gain.
Actually, that's all I've got that's really relevant.
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Nim
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Moreover, as the Spanish attacks showed, the new generation was more interested in committing violence for the sake of immediate political gain.
Whereas the old generation...? What's the opposite?

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Well, as the article says, in some detail, Al Qaeda's defining ideology seemed to be blood for blood's sake during, say, the 1990s. As a fundamentalist religious organization, Al Qaeda "believed" (the quotes there to protect myself from the obvious dangers of ascribing beliefs to large organizations) in perpetual spiritual and physical warfare that only ends in genuine religious apocalypse.

So, Al Qaeda version Old is marked by showy, bloody attacks like 9/11, which anger lots of people but don't really come with an attached "here's what we want you to do" plan, beyond "fight with us and send the world into a grand clash of civilizations," whereas version New would appear to have smaller and more realistic goals in mind.

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Nim
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Can't really say I prefer any version... But I suppose businessmen or wannabe-politicians are better to parley with than righteous zombies.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by Nim the Merciful:
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Moreover, as the Spanish attacks showed, the new generation was more interested in committing violence for the sake of immediate political gain.
Whereas the old generation...? What's the opposite?
Just wanted the Saudis to give them even more funding?

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