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Bernd
Guy from Old Europe
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The Prometheus dedication plaque has a very interesting piece of information, besides the "NX-74913":
"Beta Antares Ship Yards - Antares Sector"
This means that there is at least another star or planet called Antares which is not in the Bajor sector. The latter assumption would have moved Bajor into the Beta Quadrant since the real star Antares is located there. The question is what "Beta Antares" is supposed to mean. Could it be a planet numbering, or is it just a means to distinguish this fleet yards from "Antares Fleet Yards - Bajor Sector"? Anyway, our maps may show Bajor in the Alpha Quadrant where it belongs

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Gaseous Anomaly
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My question is Where did you get "Antares Shipyards - Bajor Sector" from in the first place?
Only asking, mind. The answer to your question may hang on that.

I've no interest in Stellar Cartography. Sorry.
I've no idea, Bernd. Sorry.

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No. Sorry.

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Bernd
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that "Antares Ship Yards - Bajor Sector" is from the Defiant dedication plaque.

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Brown_supahero
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I haven't seen the plaques but if it is "Antares Ship Yards - Bajor Sector", Antares could stand for a company name, and proves my point that the Federation contracts out to private companies in building some of thier starship.

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Michael Dracon
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I agree with Mr. Brown. The Antares Shipyards is just a (company) name like Utopia Planitia.
Beta Antares is a real star (look for the tread about real stars elsewhere on this forum). They probably used that name to identify the shipyard.

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Masao
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In actual astronomic nomenclature, "Beta Antares" doesn't make any sense. Greek letters always come before names of constellations (not after, as in "Ceti Alpha") and are used to indicate the apparent magnitude of a star within a constellation. Within this system, Antares can also be called Alpha Scorpii, since it is the brightest star in the constellation Scorpius. As far as I know, Greek letters are not used with the names of individual stars (except in Star Trek). Roman numerals usually are used to designate planets.

But, of course, you all remember that Beta Antares IV is where fizzbin comes from.

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Jim Phelps
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In other words, there's a Beta Antares ship-yards in Beta-Antares sector, as well as a Beta Antares shipyards in a different sector? And perhaps even a number of shipyards owned by Utopia Planitia?

(The Ent-B was also commissioned at Antares Ship Yards in the TNG tech manual, don't remember what the actual plaque says.)

Boris

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Masao
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I think the simplest explanation is that Starfleet Yards are named after locations, such as Utopia Planitia and San Francisco. "Beta Antares" is simply an in-joke referring to "A Piece of the Action."

While I also think it's likely that Starfleet ships, like most current ships, are built by private companies, is there anything in canon to support this?

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TSN
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Well, I don't know about building starships, but we do know that provate companies still exist, such as the Dytallix Mining Corporation which has a base in the Mira system (TNG: "Conspiracy").

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Michael Dracon
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No Boris, there are two shipyards, one called 'Antares' and one called 'Beta Antares'. So there is in fact no problem.

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Mikey T
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The dedication plaque says nothing about where it was built, which is strange. It just says that it was commissioned at STARDATE 9715.5. And it mentions UESPA in the plaque, another strange oddity. The only reference on Antares Shipyards come from the ST: TNG Tech Manual. Can anyone scan the dedication plaque for the Prometheus for comparison?

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Elim Garak
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Oh no! Not "You-spa"!

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Aban Rune
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Regarding private companies, I don't know about the whole ships, but some of the plaques mention Yoyodine Propulsion, likely refering to the builders of the engine or nacelles. Whether they or independant contractors or not, I bet they're all based on Federation planets.

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AndrewR
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Here is a little theory, maybe it is Antares Shipyards - Bajor Sector... meaning it was built - refitted in both places... Antares Shipyards (after the Borg problem) and then shipped by Sisko to the Bajor Sector for O'Brien to spruce her up...

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Dax
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Is there anything in the show that suggests the Defiant was built at Utopia Planitia? I remember this being brought up by someone somewhere. Could the project have been initiated at UP, then completed at Antares, and then O'brien did the bells-and-whistles.

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