Topic: Is the T'Pol from TNG "Gambit" the same T'Pol in Enterprise?
Da_bang80
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Ok, so I was watching TNG on i think it was Spike, and the Episode "Gambit" featured a Vulcan named T'Pol who was a member of the Vulcan Security. I was just wondering if it's the same T'Pol as in Enterprise?
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roughly 200 years later?
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Da_bang80
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I don't know how long Vulcans live...
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"T'Paal" is the name you're looking for from TNG.
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Da_bang80
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Ah. Ok, thank you.
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quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80: I don't know how long Vulcans live...
The TNG episode "Sarek" gives the impression that at just about 200 Sarek is pretty old for a Vulcan, and he dies just a few years later. I'd say their life expectancy usually ranges from about 160-180, with Vulcans getting to the 200 mark being regarded as having a bloody good innings.
That said, has it ever been stated (or indirectly hinted at) how long the human lifespan is by the time of TNG? Picard would have been, if we take the chronology book as accurate, well into his seventies by the time Nemesis rolled around - I assume humans regularly break the 100 barrier by that point?
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Sarek was sick, though. With a disease that typically shows up in Vulcans over age 200. Sort of a Vulcan Alzheimer's, I suppose (in that it affects the elderly, rather than in its symptoms).
The impression I got was that, while Sarek wasn't young, his death was still rather premature, compared to dying by old age.
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IIRC, the TOS writer's guide (as documented in Stephen Whitfield and Gene Roddenberry's The Making of Star Trek) said that a typical Vulcan lifespan "rarely exceeds 250 years."
T'Pol was already in her 60s during ENT's run, and TNG was more than 200 years later.
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: Sarek was sick, though. With a disease that typically shows up in Vulcans over age 200. Sort of a Vulcan Alzheimer's, I suppose (in that it affects the elderly, rather than in its symptoms).
The impression I got was that, while Sarek wasn't young, his death was still rather premature, compared to dying by old age.
But supposedly Bandii syndrome commonly affected vulcans over the age of 200 - if it was so common - then there wouldn't be many 200+ year old Vulcans.
The wording alone makes it sound as if there aren't many 200+ ers and of those that there are - many get Bandaii.
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What I mean is - that I think they were trying to emphasise that he was OLD, by Vulcan standards and as a result was suffering from this condition.
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Hmmm...a wonder that Sarek did not have more children: figure, once every seven years, and he was over 200.....(carry the seven)....
That's a whole lotta fucking.
What do poor lonely batchelor Vulcan males do when it's their time? Either they have a Vulcan square dance or Vulcans developed holotechnology by nessisity.
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Alzheimer's commonly affects people over the age of, say, 70. That doesn't mean most 70-year-olds get it. Nor does it mean that 70 is an overly high age to reach. It just means it's unusual for someone under 70 to have it.
Now, apply that logic to the Vulcans, and you'll see what I'm getting at.
"That's a whole lotta fucking."
Hardly. Assuming they don't start until at least their mid-to-late-teens (q.v. Star Trek III), and also assuming they don't have some sort of pon-farr-opause, that's about 26 instances of coitus in his entire life. Now, granted, this is a science fiction message board on the Internet, so one might expect that number to seem high to some of us. However, having sex 26 times and producing two children doesn't exactly seem improbable.
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