quote: 1 'Nemesis' will introduce us to the Enterprise-E version of several locations that were seen on the Enterprise-D: Cargo Bay, Stellar Cartography, and Ten Forward (albeit without Guinan).
2 Several classic Star Trek species are mentioned. First, Riker's bachelor party was said by Picard to have been attended by "three Andorians, two Tellerites and a Gorn." Second, Data's 'brother' B-9, when describing his travels through the universe, says he encountered the Pakleds, Bolians, Nausicaans, Cardassians and even Talosians.
3 Lwaxana Troi is not present at the wedding reception on Earth, but Deanna mentions that her mother will be at the traditional Betazed wedding.
4 Picard says he has initiated first contact between the Federation and alien species twenty-seven times in his career.
5 The Reman leader Shinzon mentions by name both the Treaty of Algernon and the Romulan Star Empire. In established Trek canon, the Treaty of Algernon ended the Romulan-Federation War and established the Neutral Zone.
6 One of the members of the Romulan Senate tells Shinzon that they cannot afford to fight the Federation as "Romulus is still re-arming from the Dominion War." During the war, the Romulans used Reman assault troops in the most violent encounters - i.e. as cannon fodder. However, Shinzon fought and won seventeen major engagements.
7 Both Dr. Soong (Data's creator) and Lore (his other brother) are mentioned in reference to B-9.
8 The Federation delegate ship that is dispatched to Shinzon is the Orion, which is headed by an elderly Andorian, Meelok, who taught Picard at the Academy. During one of Picard's subspace communications with Janeway, she advises him, "When in doubt, run to the old Andorian."
9 During the main battle, Riker orders a maneuver called "Defensive Pattern Kirk Epsilon." He also sarcastically asks why the Enterprise-E doesn't have any saucer separation capabilites.
10 One of the features that starship crews have been craving for centuries is finally awarded to Picard at the end of the film, when the new Mark Seven Captain's Chair is installed. While Worf argues with one of the new ensigns about Picard liking his old chair, Picard sits down in his new chair and takes time appreciating it. According to the script, it's equipped with "...metal restraints [which] fly into position around [his] waist and shoulders [at the touch of a button]." You know, seatbelts!
11 At the end of the film, Picard tells his new first officer, Commander Madden, that their first asssignment is going to be to explore the Denab system. "It should be exciting. It's a place... where no one has gone before."
1 So, "Nemesis" is still the name. Nothing shocking here
2 A Gorn, eh? I hope we see him. Would once and for all show that the Gorn are now allies/members of the UFP. Data's 'brother'? B-nine? WTF?
3 Too bad Lwaxana isn't there. She could've provided some seemingly much-wanted comic relief.
4 I'll have to check with my records, Mr. Picard
5 I thought Algeron came after Tomed, as per "Pegasus"? (Algeron being after ER War was Okudan conjecture before "Pegasus"). Potential screw-up here.
6 Thank God they're at least acknowledging the Dominion War after-effects. The canon-fodder strategy does fit the Romulans.
7 "How queer!"
8 ANDORIANS!! WOW! I want to see! I love you, Mr. Logan! The Janeway connection is cool! (BTW 'one of .. communications with Janeway' implies more than one..)
9 I thought the E-E *did* have saucer-sep?
10 Ehh... Weird. Finally after 300 years, they come with seatbelts! Now the only thing they need to invent are fuses for in the consoles...
11 New XO? Riker finally got his command? I hope so! Or is the Riker family resigning from 'the Space Service'?
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Okay. Someone needs to put a $$$ at the beginning of the thread's title. If anyone notices, when this is the topic displayed on Flare's front page, Harry's "Spoilers Inside" warning CAN NOT BE SEEN.
Now, Harry, you did good. You put a "Spoilers Inside" warning ...
But, it doesn't do any good when a person clicks on the title from the front page and doesn't go through "Gen Trek" to do so ... I mean, for all I knew, this was just more rumors and guessing as to what the film was about.
Okay ...
Why would the Ent-E have saucer seperation capabilities? It doesn't carry civilians that I know of.
Guess Riker's getting his own command. I wonder what's going on with Data and LaForge? I mean, if Data is "killed" like Brent wants, then LaForge should be next in line for the Enterprise's First Officer position -- unless, of course, he goes along to Riker's new ship.
I'll repeat myself and say that I would like to see Picard move on, perhaps to a position within the Federation's Diplomatic Corps, with Riker taking over as CO of the Enterprise.
I also hope Worf isn't written back in by explaining, "oh, he didn't like being an ambassador, so he returned to Starfleet." That would be a hell of a cop-out.
Janeway? Picard has transmissions with Janeway? Why? Does he want to make himself a really bad captain by getting influenced by her? Leave the woman alone! Don't touch her with a fifty-foot pole!
Data's got another brother? WTF?
How reliable is this information? Sounds good, but let's not take it too seriously yet.
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B-9 has already been an established rumor. Rumor goes that B-9 will be used for Romulan/Reman motives. Algeron was first established to be the treaty that ended the war. "The Pegasus" was the episode that said otherwise and screwed it up (at least that's how I remember it...it might have been Okudan conjectures.) E-E was never established to have saucer seperation capabiltities as per E-D style or E-nil style. An early drawing by Eaves or whoever designed the E-E shows that it might be possible, but that was never made canon. Rumor goes that Riker's new command will be named USS Titan. Worf will most likely be at a rumored little gathering for the Riker/Troi wedding at the beginning. Chances are that the emergency comes up while Worf is still on board the E-E while heading for the actual wedding on Betazed. All this stuff has been discussed in another thread. And no spoiler forewarning is needed in the title because everything about ST:X will be spoilers at this point. People should already know that.
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For one thing, it could have just been Harry's musings about what should be included in the film. It could have been mundane details: Paramount releasing an approved script, or producers looking at sights to film.
Details of a possible plot need spoiler warnings. Harry gave spoiler warnings. The front page of Flare cropped off the spoiler warnings. Toss on a couple $$$ to make sure people know what they're getting into.
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So Riker FINALLY decides to accept a command. Bout time IMO. I agree that the writers shouldnt use the cop out of Worf deciding to come back to Starfleet. Of course the alternative, tried and true method, he just happens to come allong for the ride is getting stale.
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I don't know which is worse, the Worf growing tired of being an Ambassador or just happening to be there... of course, he deciding to give up while happening to be there would just royally suck. The rest (aside from B-9/Bengin, are we imitating Star Wars now? ) sounds more plausiable and believeable, and not so rehashed.
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Even if the thread were just "musings", it's likely someone will say "Well, we know it's rumored that...", or something. Basically, if you don't want ST10 spoilers, don't read any threads that mention ST10. And don't click links on the front page if you can't read the entire thread title, and you suspect potential spoilers.
"...Riker's bachelor party was said by Picard to have been attended by 'three Andorians, two Tellerites and a Gorn.'"
This is what I was afraid of. A passing reference to, say, a Gorn would be okay. But just throwing in a list of three of aliens everyone wants to see like that sounds forced. He shoulod at least have mentioned either some common or some unknown speices in there, too.
"At the end of the film, Picard tells his new first officer, Commander Madden, that their first asssignment is going to be to explore the Denab system. 'It should be exciting. It's a place... where no one has gone before.'"
A typo for "Deneb"? If so, I'm not going to even bother pointing out why this is blatantly stupid. But, then, even if it was spelled "Denab" on purpose, didn't someone say that's how it was spelled in some TOS scripts? Either way, I don't think they're going anyplace new.
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Um... I would point out that Denab was the star system in which Farpoint Station was located. The E-D went there fifteen years ago, so it's hardly where no one has gone before.
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B-9 is to be played by Brent Spiner. It goes that B-9 will just be a childlike version of Data...just think of Data from Season 1 of TNG and that's how the acting will go. It also goes that Data will die in the movie but prior to that Data implants some memories or whatnot onto B-9. In the end B-9 sings a song that Data once sang earlier in the movie so the crew knows that some part of Data survived.
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Ah, but this does set the stage for Brent Spiner to bow out of the role and come back later if he decides to return to Star Trek.
If doesn't want to appear in Star Trek XI, then the story can simply be that B-9 has not fully integrated Data's neural copy into his own positronic matrix. Thus, he gets to spend quality time with Commander Maddox for a while in order to learn.
By the time Star Trek XII comes around, B-9 could be fully ready to return to the cast if Brent Spiner choses to reprise the role. If he doesn't, then B-9 is still adapting or the integration was finally complete and he decided to pursue an interest outside of Starfleet.
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I've always been under the impression that Remus was the second planet of the Empire, rather than a conquered world. Interesting. If it is 'conquered' & populated by Romulans could it be due to the fact that they were fighting a civil war during their 60 odd year absence taht ended at the end of TNG's season 1?
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) sounds more plausiable and believeable, and not so rehashed.
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