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Nevod
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I think that you guys should stop that nitpicking and instead, talk about *real* technobabble... [Big Grin]
I'm remembering Flare how it has been 1.5 years ago: Borg power theories, Voy technobabble etc... We really should be *tech* forumers, not nitpickers.

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Mark Nguyen
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Give us a chance! We're trapped with one series (that's currently stuck in reruns, no less) and lots of backstory we simply don't know yet. As for Voyager, it was so inconsistent that picking it apart was *fun*. The current series has yet to have that. Good thing in terms of people liking it; bad in terms of us trying to explain it. [Smile]

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Veers
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I don't see how some of you could have any less of a life...

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Nevod
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Huhh... But why not start talking about technobabble? ANY technobabble? And one series DOESN'T matter. You can start any technobabble.

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Dat
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Good idea, Nevod. And since you're so concerend about it, why don't you start yourself.

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First off, there's no such thing as real technobabble. Technobabble is just that.. babble. Technology (or Treknology) is that extended form of explanation that makes sense and doesnt insult the intelligence of the viewer/reader/forum member.

So to review
Technobabble: stupid, fake, makes Star Trek bad.
Technology: intelligent, real, makes science-fiction good.

Now when discussing technology as it relates to Star Trek,we have to talk about Star Trek. That means observing the shows and making conclusions based on what we see. If we see that theyve made a mistake or something else that shouldnt be, then we HAVE to nitpick it. For there is no separating Tech-talk and nitpicking (especially where Voyager is concerned!) and dont get me started on the canon problems created when you use 'U.S.S. DeFint rockx' websites as sources....

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TSN
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That's not true. "Technobabble" just means techincal terminology that people outside the field aren't likely to understand.

Haven't you ever heard the similar term "psychobabble"?

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Mikey T
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I think this suggestion has been mentioned in many ways before. And since it is not a capital crime here, it will not be enforced that heavily... unless Charles commands it.

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Austin Powers
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TSN: You were thinking of Q weren't you? [Wink]
When he talked to Picard in AGT about Troi's "pedantic psychobabble".

I kind of like the notion Nevod seems to imply. Some of our threads have become rather "bickery" recently, especially with the "Enterprise War" between the Give-it-a-chance and the This-series-sucks factions.
But I enjoy the nitpicking aspect! [Big Grin]

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Veers
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*sigh*
I remember the good ol' days of Flare, when we would point out "Hey! Is that a Yeager in the background?" or "What registry does that ship have?" Now it's "warp drive" this and "Enterprise shuttles" that.
Anyway, that's just me, but those threads were the best.

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AndrewR
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You want technobabble!?! What is the denorious belt!?! What exactly was Vertiform City? Was it a white dwarf that had a large supply of verteron??? particals?

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Sol System
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Actually, TSN, the common definition of "technobabble" that I'm aware of is not just jargon, but meaningless jargon.
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TSN
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Veers: Back in those days, we still had DS9 to give us new ships to talk about. Once that was gone, all we had was VOY, w/ nothing but alien-of-the-week ships. And ENT isn't likely to have much more than that, either. Not on a regular basis, anyway.

And, according to the Oxford English Dictionary:

technobabble colloq. (orig. U.S.) [after psychobabble], outlandish or pretentious (pseudo-)scientific jargon.

1981 People Weekly (U.S.) 28 Dec. 134/1 To help separate technology from *technobabble, People turned to Tracy Kidder, 36, whose book The Soul of a New Machine describes the building of a new computer. 1984 Consumer Electronics Apr. A6/4 Standardization is very critical to reduce the fear factor that exists with computers, the sheer amount of technobabble. 1986 E. L. SCACE in T. C. Bartee Digital Communications iii. 98 Network terminations 1 and 2 are technobabble left over from early phases of ISDN discussions. 1989 Precision Marketing 6 Mar. (Suppl.) 18/1 (Advt.), Never mind the technicalities..if you look for more sophistication, you're liable to be blinded with geodemographispeak and technobabble.

As you can see, it's used for both real scientific jargon, and "pseudo-scientific" jargon.

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Now we're all nitpicking the meaning of the word "Technobabble"

I think you may have proved Nevod's point for him.

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Austin Powers
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Exactly what I mean. We tend to get away from the main subject of a thread very quickly these days and start bickering about items that are not in any way relevant or important.
Sigh...

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