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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Wow. They're mighty pretty! Check it out...

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/sfmuseum/constitution-2views.jpg

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[ April 27, 2002, 16:14: Message edited by: The Mighty Monkey of Mim ]

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Mark Nguyen
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Mighty pretty? Pretty mighty, I'd say. [Smile]

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Dax
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A bit of nitpicking:

There are too many rows of windows on the side view. There should be only five rows on the neck, and eight on the rest of the secondary hull.

Unfortunately this is hard to explain unless you already know about it. Apparently the bottom of the secondary hull shouldn't have the weird curve. All the official schematics have it but it's inaccurate.

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Masao
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It's close enough for government work! But I'll have to check on the windows again.

Anyways, this is my first schematic using the accurate, slightly greenish "Starfleet Gray." I think it makes the ship a bit more interesting, don't you agree? I also put in a very subtle deflector grid and the tan ring. I'll probably have to go back and redraw all my other ships using the same shade of gray

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Another minor bitch: I think the tapering of the nacelles is meant to be more subtle.

But please don't get me wrong, Masao. The schematic is beautiful and infinitly better than I could produce.

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I like!! I also like the new fighters, good work! [Big Grin]

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Masao
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BTW: My schematics were based on blueprints by a guy named Alan Everhart, who died in the turret explosion aboard USS Iowa. I got them from a 3-D modeling friend (sorry, I can't distribute copies). Everhart's schematics are regarded by modelers as the most accurate available, since they were based on measurements of the 11-foot miniature rather than on previously circulated "official" schematics.

Edit: The Everhart schematics were recently posted at Cult TV man's SF modeling site: http://www.culttvman.com/assets/images-STAR_TREK/dmerEndia-001a.JPG As, I said, these are considered extremely accurate, but I think the deflector grid on the top of the primary hull are incorrect, as can be seen from this photo of the never-repainted surface (from the IDIC page): http://www.uah.edu/~jim/nasm4.jpg

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Wow, a guy did Trek stuff was in that turret. For some reason that suprises me.

I like the schematic, but really don't think any Starfleet ship had that type of greyish look to it. All throughout TOS, we see a slight light bluish Enterprise.

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Those dates are kind of curious.
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Masao
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Dates? What do you mean?

Anyway, he's another article about the color of Enterprise from CultTVman. It says Enterprise was greenish gray. http://www.culttvman.com/what_color_is_the_classic_ente.html

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Everything else is arguable but there's definitely only 5 rows of windows on the neck.

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quote:
CAPTAIN KIRK,J T. 09 05 2264 - 01 14 2270

CAPTAIN DECKER, D W. 01 14 2270 - cco


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Masao
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Oh, those dates. I didn't read them. Don't really care, anyway.

I agree that they are too many windows on the neck (and probably elsewhere). They must have bled through from an earlier version of my schematic. I'll fix 'em.

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Here is a side shot Masao. It's of the latest renovation.

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Be careful of your choice of colors. The last renovation has the ship almost green. It's supposed to be the color of the ship before the harsh lights of the 60's film industry washed it out to the color it appears on screen.

The plastic modelers have their own theory. Basically a sample of the overspray was taken in and matched to a color called Sears Weatherbeater Stoneyhurst gray. I've also read that it's a close match for some gray that GM used on it's cars at the time. So its pretty much a crapshoot.

Alan E's plans are outstanding but even they have some inconsistancies when compared with all the photos available on the ship. I think I have managed to find about 300 diffenent shots now.

Any way just a few tidbits of info.

Did the Lt Cmdr like the pic of the Bataan?

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Hey, Jay! The LCDR liked the render of Bataan very much. Thanks again.

The base color I used was matched to the paint chips in the CultTVman article. It's similar to the grey suggested by McCullar's (the IDIC page guy) article in ST Communicator. Both are slightly green. The color recommendations in both articles are based on samples of the paint (overspray on schematics) and the recollection of Richard Datin (spelling?), one the builders. He also debunks the use of the GM paint.

Thanks for that picture. It'll help with the window placement. But I really hate Mirecki's "renovation." He made Enterprise look like a rusted-out garbage scow! I hope they repaint Enterprise soon.

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