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Dukhat
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Remember this?

http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/341/V-ship.jpg

For the longest time we were trying to figure out just what the heck this was & where it came from. Our best guess was that it was a saucer taken from one of the Excelsior study models.

Well, after all this time, I finally got the bright idea to email Okuda and ask him. Even though I'd already emailed him many times before about other stuff, suddenly, I just got the urge to do it again. And it turns out...

...that it's one of the mothership models from V (if you hadn't already figured this out by looking at the file name)!

Looking at the screencap more closely, I can't believe I didn't see this before. Perhaps it was because of those two strange bars making a "v" shape across the top of the saucer. I suppose they were there for mounting purposes when the model was being filmed for "V". However, the middle hump & top "bridge" correspond to the mothership model, as does the lip around the saucer where lights would have been illuminated during the V days.

Thoughts?

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Lee
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August Fool!

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Gvsualan
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I pity the fool.

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For reference.

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Harry
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So chronologically speaking, how does this fit with the first use of the Batris model, which was also an ex-V model?

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TSN
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I'm leaning toward agreeing with Lee. What with that Trek model looking not at all like those "V" images.
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Mikey T
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It's just some pool covering that was left over from the Iconian building project in that TNG episode.

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Jason Abbadon
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Not even close to the same model.

I call "SUCKA!" on you. [Big Grin]

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Lee
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Looks more like half a Cylon mothership, to be honest.

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Guardian 2000
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There's a bit of a "Saucer Dimorphism Blooper" (to coin a phrase) in regards to the V spacecraft. Matte paintings by various artists and varying models resulted in multiple styles of saucer, though the casual viewer didn't notice.

Given that the early freighter model (used throughout TNG, as the Xhosa, and so on) is a modification of the V shuttle, the notion that they got one of the physical models from V is hardly a big leap.

Short of Okuda coming to join us personally (which I hardly expect, since some of you are just plain weird [Wink] ), secondhand info is all we get.

That said, the theory that the "spokes" are mount points makes no sense.

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Dukhat
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Clarification:

Okuda told me that it was "a model from the miniseries V." No, he didn't specifically state that it was a mothership model, but I would have thought it was obvious. Guess I was wrong.

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Lee
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*tilts head* It couldn't be one of those water-tanks could it?

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/6460/tech18.jpg

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Are those real? I mean, it's not a great picture, but it looks like a matte painting.
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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by Lee:
*tilts head* It couldn't be one of those water-tanks could it?

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/6460/tech18.jpg

Definitely not.

Mabye it's just a prop from "V"- like a tupperware lid that was used on the show. [Wink]

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Bernd
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What is the smaller saucer in this pic:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/6460/tech7.jpg

Could this be our mystery ship?

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