Courtesy of Paul Robinson, who can't seem to post on Flare. Anyway, he'd appreciate your comments and stuff.

I think it's nifty, if a mite angular. Roomy, with multiple levels. Are the CO aux consoles on swingable pivots, or are they stuck like that? And where do the other doors go? The portside aft door goes to the mini-transporter room, but what about the other one?

Mark

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I REALLY like that bridge! I've got a couple beefs ...

There should be a Ship's Operations station (like Data's post on the E-D) to coordinate the various departments on the ship. And the aux. helm/tactical post shouldn't be directly behind the command chairs.

But that is a GORGEOUS design -- it's HUGE, too. I could see this being an amazing set on TV -- sort of like Ops at DS9 -- you can't see the whole thing in one shot.

What are those rooms off to the side of Aux. Control and Enviornment? Or are those just extra control equipment?

WOW!

Hey -- does anyone want to design the bridge to the TOKYO? Maybe I'll toy around with that later tonight ...

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--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?

For comparison, I believe that Voyager has the most height difference at 5 steps or about 2.5', from the upper deck to the conn "pit" and ready room / conference room accesses. Furthermore, I don't think any bridge design has more than three steps at a time in any given staircase. Not to say that this bridge isn't spiffy, but it's a little... Tall.

Mark

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I only count six steps from the backup Tac/Helm console to the deck in front of the viewer.

Okay, follow me ... at the front of the bridge, we've got the viewer. The Enviormental and Aux. Stations are foreward of this, and raised (this can be seen by the arrow indicating that the stairs lead down). This is the lowest part of the bridge. We know this because all of the stairs/arrows point TO it, not away from it (so all the stairs lead to it).

Now, there are three stairs leading up to the Command Dias (the command chairs, helm and tactical). Well, actually, the stairs lead DOWN from the Command Dias to the deck in front of the viewer. There are 3 stairs (so 18", at most by your measurements.

From the command dias, there are 3 more steps up to the backup helm and tactical post behind the captain's chair. This is the highest point of the bridge, as the two stations to left and right have arrows indicating that those "platforms" are lowered from that point.

So in reality, the deck in front of the viewer is only three feet lowered from the highest part of the deck. I might point out that there was a much steeper drop aboard the Enterprise-D's bridge.

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--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?

Anyway, I now count seven steps down, not six. Form the uppser stations, it's four steps down, not three, unless you count the command chair as being two steps up from the Conn/Tac I stations and not two. From there, it's three more steps down to the area in front of the viewer. This is a bit confusing, as the CO chair seems to be sitting on the same level as the uppermost station, and the lowest steps coming down on the port and stbdmost sides seem to intersect with the upper levels of the forward stations. Kinda ecscheresque, methinks.

And are you sure that the E-D height difference is more than three feet? I was sure it was two - it's four steps down to the ground on the alternate E-D bridge.

Mark

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Actually, it's not clear. It's possible the Command Chair is on the same level with the backup Tactical post, but that would mean one big step down! I'm assuming the two lines behind and at an angle from the CO's "computers" indicate a drop in deck level, making the CO's chair on level with the first step going down...

One other thing, unless I'm mistaken, the deck in front of the Tac/Helm posts is LEVEL with the top of those positions. While a cool idea -- well, actually, it's a pretty cool idea, and kinda of meshes with a bridge design that SeanR did ... (let me see if I can find it...)

I don't know the space difference on the E-D ... it looks taller than three feet, though, but those ramps might have something to do with that. NOTHING can top the space difference on DS9's Ops, with that lowered pit in front, and Sisko's office at the very top. Loved that set!

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--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?

[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited March 01, 2001).]

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-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?

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Star Trek Gamma Quadrant
Average Rated 6.27 out of 10 Smileys by Fabrux (with four eps posted)
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"Oh, yes, screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!"
-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
****
"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?

Besides, standing creates the minor problem of falling down. Whenever the ship is hit, BOOM! All the senior officer fall, some break their necks and are never heard from again. Others can't get up to read thier monitors fast enough, and BOOM! The ship is hit again. Also, it creates added stress for whoever is manning the position. Who wants to STAND on bridge duty for three hours? I try very hard to create as many sitting positions as possible.

I too, would like to know where some of those doors lead. But I like the readyroom. Desk could be bigger.

Um, if there is a helm station, why is there not a navigation station? Helm is short term steering and nav is long term. If both helm and nav are combined, it should be called the conn.

I don't particularly mind the height of the ceiling if the deck is varied enough. Which is *definitely* is. The only problem I foresee, (and one I have on one of my own designs), is that the captain's full view of the main screen might be hindered by the Helm/Tac people stationed in front of him. I didn't count the steps down, so I'm not sure.

Never knew I'd ever have such an interesting conversation about stairs!

As for the flanking consoles, they strike me as the kind that Troi and Riker used on the E-D. Those rotatable things. If they were chairs, they probably wouldn't be shaded in like the other consoles. If they were chairs, I wouldn't mind at all, especially if I had my dream crew as written in the General Discission forum - good footsie awaits.

Mark

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"Why build one, when you can have two at twice the price?"

- Carl Sagan, "Contact"