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HerbShrump
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I'm not finding a discussion about this episode from the first time it aired (in Britian).

I enjoyed it. I think we've visited the theme before on Dr. Who (and TNG's Time's Arrow). Still, it felt like Dr. Who.

A story idea I liked froom the Tom Baker era was that ghosts can be explained by being time echoes or, in this case, bleed over from another dimension. I'm not big on real ghosts and I like these other explainations.

In fact, this inspired an idea I had for a Star Trek story when I was thinking of the adventures of the Enterprise-B (before Generations came out and totally ruined my concept).

Since I know where the next few episodes are going to go, I liked the "foreshadowing" done in this one, with Rose contemplating being able to go anywhere in time and see people long gone.

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Yeah the episode was good yet I felt more could have been done to make you feel more sympathetic to girl who sacrifies her life. But then again considering time restraints, I think they did a pretty good job.
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Lee
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She was Welsh, you know. Just thought I'd point that out.

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quote:
Originally posted by HerbShrump:
Since I know where the next few episodes are going to go, I liked the "foreshadowing" done in this one, with Rose contemplating being able to go anywhere in time and see people long gone.

I also enjoyed that she wasn't really up on the mechanics of time travel and was convinced she couldn't die in the past: that is until the Doctor put her straight. Nice touch, good to see she's not just taking it all in her stride as some past companions have.

Mark Gatiss' writing for this episode was excellent - looking forward to his offering for the new series. He seems to be able to capture the mood of a period well, especially the Victorian.

One thing though - you will notice that the TARDIS isn't as smooth a ride as it once was. In fact was this not the episode where the Doctor and Rose end up lying on the deck laughing after the TARDIS lands?

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TSN
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"She was Welsh, you know. Just thought I'd point that out."

A minor fault, in the long run.

She's supposed to be playing the female lead in the "Torchwood" spin-off. A character called "Gwen". Her "Doctor Who" character was "Gwyneth". According to the IMDb, she was once on EastEnders, playing (wait for it...) "Young Gwen".

Seriously, do people in television production realize that they do have other girls' names in Wales?

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I also enjoyed that she wasn't really up on the mechanics of time travel and was convinced she couldn't die in the past: that is until the Doctor put her straight. Nice touch, good to see she's not just taking it all in her stride as some past companions have.
I agree. We're so used to people who just up and accept the more commonly-held tennets of stuff like time travel, alternate dimensions, etc. Common material for us geeks, but there ARE plenty of people out there who will find it difficult to wrap their heads around less-worldy concepts. Rose is very much a strong person who acts and judges what she sees in front of her, and this is a great little moment that proves it.

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One thing though - you will notice that the TARDIS isn't as smooth a ride as it once was. In fact was this not the episode where the Doctor and Rose end up lying on the deck laughing after the TARDIS lands?
This changes after this episode. We don't see any in-flight scenes aboard the TARDIS until "Father's Day", when we see the column moving without any shaking. After that, the TARDIS interior seems to only shake when really persuing something or otherwise making emergency maneuvers or is under some internal or external strain.

My personal guess is that the TARDIS was just getting used to having travellers again. Remember, it's linked to the Doctor's psyche, and over the course of the premiere episode he was initially reluctant to have anyone else aboard his ship AT ALL. Perhaps he softened up, but his TARDIS - who at that time was his only thing left - took a little while to get used to the new girl.

Mark

PS - Man, a McGann movie featuring the time war would have been great... Look at the ingredients: supposedly participating in the destructino of billions and involving many species [spoilers!!], something traumatic (say, the death of a companion) to make the Doctor unwilling to take on another, and something hopefully heroic that would culminate in McGann's Doctor sacrificing himself, destroying his people, and regenerating at the very end into the brooding anti-hero we see in "Rose". Ooh, the possibilities...

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quote:
Originally posted by TSN:
Seriously, do people in television production realize that they do have other girls' names in Wales?

lol myfanwe omg lols

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Lee
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Myfanwy. Some people I know in NZ called their daughter that. Then they had another one and called her Ceridwen.

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Well, I was thinking something along the lines of "Catherine" or "Charlotte" or, hey, maybe even "Eve". Am I incorrect in thinking that most people in Wales do not have such an excess of W's and Y's and LL's in their names?
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Lee
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Pretty much. Being this close to Wales, a few have managed to evade the border patrols and gain employment at my company, and they all have normal names. Unless that's just part of the ruse, to carry on as long as possible before they're arrested and taken to the Lliquidation Camps.

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You are all forgetting the most important Welshman of all time.

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Pat was Welsh?

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