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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

All the talk about Gene Ray getting on the ballot and Nader being kicked out of the debates made me a bit curious, so I've been cruising the web... here're a few choice picks.

(These are all real parties running presidential candiates)

United Fascist Union
Not particularly Nazi-ist at all, actually, but very, very interesting... Especially with the UFOs...

The Revolution! Party
Check out the domain name... Libertarianism with a rather barbed twist.

Family Values Party
As mentioned at the site, the leader apparently had a vision from God in his bedroom, which might account for the King James-ian style of presentation.

The Light Party
Uses words "A magical musical gift for you" on website. Nuff said.

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Hmm...I only read a bit of that REVOLUTION! one, but they seem like whack-jobs on their own. Hypocritical too.

Stop policing the world. Become just another member of the UN, with responsibilities equivalent to our numbers. Reduce the Pentagon's budget by at least 30%.

Tibet can�t wait. And neither can millions of other victims of state repression around the globe. Emphasize human rights in foreign policy, and be consistant about it. Representatives of human rights groups should represent the US in the UN and should be part of the State Department.

Last time I checked, in order to stop human abuse world-wide, we'd have to police the world.

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

I was waiting for someone to pick up on those things when I posted it. Thanks Tom

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

An interesting point:

When does a sovereign nation have the right to police the world?

The United States of America is the strongest country in the world, militarily speaking, made even stronger by the NATO alliance.

After WWI, we retreated into a policy of isolation, and it cost us hundreds of thousands of dead in World War II, and it cost other nations millions of dead and nations leveled.

We've tried helping embattered countries, most notably in South Korea and Vietnam ... neither were resounding successes, as the Korean War has never ended (no peace treaty was signed) and thousands of Allied troops still police the border; and Vietnam's failure was a tribute to our own arrogance.

Recently, we've fought the Gulf War, and sent troops into Kosovo. In the Gulf, America's interests were clearly threatened; not so in Kosovo ...

In Kosovo, the Allies went in to stop a genocide. "Learn the lesson of World War II," is a motto bandied about. People decry the intervention as substaining Milosovich in power longer, but could we as a nation -- as an ALLIANCE of nations -- stand by and allow a genocide to be committed?

What should the role of the Allies be in policing the world?

And WHY can we never finish the job? Hussein and Milosovich both remained in control of their countries after the conflicts ended.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Quite simply, you shouldn't.

And this is leading towards flameboard material, my friend. Let's keep it there.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Ah, yes ... this isn't the flameboard, is it.

Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :

Isn't there also a Constitution party? I saw a bunch of candidates from it all over a ballot.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Hey, Vanguard made Senior!

Yes, there is a Constitution Party. There pretty well exactly the same as the Libertarian Party, except the Constitution party has a strong Christian religions slant. Or maybe it's the other way around...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I'd say they have very little in common, Omega. I'm trying to avoid judgements here, as this isn't the Flameboard, but the Libertarians generally don't think that what the Constitution party wants protected is something that government has any right protecting or not protecting.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Yeah, but the basic philosophy of minimal government is the same. You know, no SS, no medicare, stuff like that.

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

How about that Las Vegas freedom party or something. I only saw the last end of the commercial, but it ruled.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

I LIKE that "Family Values Party," it seems like a great group...

FOR ME TO POOP ON!

Hey, didja know you're damned if you have a tattoo? o_O

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

"FOR ME TO POOP ON!"

Is that from a TV show, or a web-site, cause I vaguely remember seeing/reading it before. It's still funny though.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

I don't think we have to worry about the government having any SS. Unless Buchanan gets elected, that is...

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

OK, I should have seen that coming...

Posted by Sidewinder (Member # 50) on :

Speaking of good ole Pat, he came and spoke at my university a few weeks ago. What an arrogrant fool. And the seniors love him! What really angered me was his horrible views of homosexuals. Enough said (before I get angry and get booted off this little community).

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Liam:

"For Me to POOP on!" is the tagline of Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog, previously seen frequently on Late Night with Conan O'Brien.. at least till sued by the Pets.com people.

He was also at the Friar's Club roast of Rob Reiner on 11-1, which is probably what reminded me of it to use it there.

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