Uh-oh. I don't know if this is a good idea, but I'll start a topic about it anyway. Who killed JFK? I've seen Oliver Stone's film and recently read a great book about it, and have come to a firm conclusion that a conspiracy was at work. Oswald never fired a shot. He was a patsy. LBJ, J Edgar Hoover, the Secret Service, and some Dallas Police wanted to kill Kennedy so they could go into Vietnam. That's my theory. Go and debate it. I'll watch from the sidelines. I hope, though, that I'm not lynched by Administrators!
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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
It should be fairly obvious to anyone who really killed John F. Kennedy. The answer is... hang on, someone's at the door.
Okay, I'm back. The answer is... hang on, I gotta phone call.
All right, the person who killed JFK is...
How killed JFK? Was it... Eric Cartman? Or was it Officer Barbrady? Or was it the 1989-1990 Denver Broncos?
Sorry, I gotta joke around. Anyway, it was Old Psyhco Braxton that killed John F. Kennedy.
Posted by MeGotBeer (Member # 411) on :
Obviously, Dubya did it.
Posted by BlueElectron (Member # 281) on :
There were three entry wounds from three completely different trajectory.
In another word, more then one sniper did the job.
Now CIA at the time "claims" that one person can do it, and somehow these trajectories can be "simulated" in a lab condition to "prove" that acutally only one person fire the shot, which is oswald.
It's probably the secret service or some people high up in government that did it back then.
Posted by MeGotBeer (Member # 411) on :
No agency or group of the Government participated. The best I could be made to believe would be agents or officials from those agencies participating.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
According to my Novels & Satire and Mysteries teacher, Mr. Pinkerton, JFK was actually shot by the secret service on accident. Oswald's sniper could never have blown out Kennedy's brain like it did, especially with the small caliber of the weapon. Oswald's sniper apparently did hit the President and the others in the car, though, causing their "other" wounds.
The actual shot that killed the President was fired by the secret service. In the motorcade, the secret service was in the car behind them, equipped with I believe shotguns (that, or automatic rifles, I forget which). Upon hearing the first shots from Oswald, the secret service car's driver tapped the brakes, causing the men riding outside the car to lunge forward. One of the secret service men accidentally fired his gun, and by sheer stroke of luck, hit the President in the head, and caused his brains to be blown out. Had this shot of luck not happened, the President would most likely have lived.
Of course, this would immediatly be covered up by the government if this theory were true.
Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
After having watched some films on the forensics of bullet wounds, I know that the entry wound is very small and that the exit wound is very large. The difference is caused by the pressure of the bullet in a body as it travels from point a to point b. Using this basic fact, I don't believe that Pres. Kennedy was shot by Oswald either in the neck or in the head.
Who shot Kennedy? A very professional sniper hired by an individual or individuals who had the motive and the means of killing the president.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
Capps.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Sam Beckett.
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
The Cigarette-Smoking Man.
Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :
No, you see, Kennedy was a Democrat, and since he is a left-leaning democrat, he obviously was going to ruin the nation with socialism. And therefore, he had to be stopped.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
He was NOT killed by a SS bullet (Secret Service, not Gestapo). That is a myth. Charles Brosnon's film of the event clearly shows no one slipped up and fired an accidental shot. That is another American who has fallen under the spell of myhts and urban legends. Oh, and Oswald did not shoot Kennedy. How could he have known the motorcade would be five minutes late? It was, and it came past the depository at 12:30. It was scheduled at 12:25. Oswald was in the lunchroom at 12:20. It's on the second floor. And if he was up there on the sixth floor and shot the president, he would've had a little more than a minute to get down four floors, into the lunchroom with a soda, and be seen by a police officer and employee that he was not out of breath. Clearly, obviously, Oswald couldn't have killed Kennedy. And furthermore, no one could fire a gun as fast as the Warren Commision said Oswald did (and on another note, Oswald was in the Marines and wasn't a very good shot). So, there was more than one shooter. A conspiracy. Oswald, for those of you who belive him to be the assassin, he can't be labeled one, only ALLEGED assassin, because he never had a trial. Ruby got to him. Oh, and Ruby's gun and outfit he was wearing that day may be valuable, but they're nowhere near the value of the famous Ruby slippers he was wearing! Posted by MeGotBeer (Member # 411) on :
quote:Charles Brosnon's film of the event clearly shows no one slipped up and fired an accidental shot.
Er. Eh? Well, if this is the case, Quantum Leap's film of the event clearly shows that without Sam Beckett's leap and intervention, Oswald (who siezed control of Beckett) would not only have shot and killed JFK, but also Jackie.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Silliest thread ever.
Besides, everyone knows that JFK shot JFK.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Fun Things To Do With A Time Machine, #10: Plant a suicide note in JFK's pocket.
From the most recent info I've heard, the most likely theory is that there were at least two shooters, one of whom was standing under the sidewalk and shot through the sewer grating, thus blowing Kennedy's head off from beneath. That would explain the odd angle of the exit wound. This was the theory used in "The X-Files", "Musings of a Cigarette-Smoking Man", when Smokey shot JFK. This was supposedly in connection to a crime syndicate in Europe, who hired three men to do the job. However, the evidence of that is a little more sketchy. Under any circumstances, at least one was supposedly dead.
Now how Oswald figures into things, I'm not sure. He could have been totally innocent. He could also have been a stooge, set up to take the fall, again ala "X-Files". My pet theory is that he was PLANNING to shooot JFK, but someone in a totally unrelated scheme totally unrelated beat him to the punch. Simply a great cosmic coincidence.
Posted by Obese Penguin (Member # 271) on :
That Must be One Magic Loogie...
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
And we can't forget Oliver Stone's next film...JFK Jr. A scene from it: (To be named): So this "Magic SAM"... Garrison Jr.: Yes. It was the one that hit his airplane. (To be named): The one Bin Laden fired, you mean... Garrison Jr.: No, he was innocent. Set up by the government so they could capture him. Ted Kennedy fired the SAM from Martha's Vineyard. Part of a government plot. A new stealth YF-22 was following JFK Jr.'s Piper aircraft, ready to shoot it down if necessary, as evidenced by this video, the George Zamboni film, taken from his fishing boat...
KENNEDY SLAIN BY CIA, MAFIA, CASTRO, LBJ, TEAMSTERS, FREEMASONS President Shot 129 Times from 43 Different Angles
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
I don't even have to click on the link. It's the Onion! I love that book, Our Dumb Century, and I love their newspaper! And it's published in my state, Wisconsin (woo-hoo!) soI always pick up a free copy at Barnes and Noble.
Another excerpt from that article goes something like this:
Unfortunately, night club owner Jack Ruby shot and killed all 43 shooters before any could testify.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
I'd tend to refute any suggestion that LBJ had anything to do with it. . . Sure, he benefitted, but he hardly behaved in the way those who might have wanted to put him in office would like. . .
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Well, he wanted to stay in Vietnam, and JFK didn't, sooo... Anywat, this may not have anything to do with the assassination, but after that famous photograph of LBJ being sworn in on AF1, there is a picture of Texas Represnative Albert Thomas winking at LBJ, who is looking at him. Anyone know of a link to it?
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
*has plenty of pictures where people have one or two eyes closed*
That of course doesn't mean they conspired to assassinate Kennedy...
Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
LBJ was a very good president who got mired in the Vietnam War. His decision not to run for a second term must have sent a message to the public. "If the powerful are being destroyed by this war, what kind of mess have we got ourselves into?"
For one of the very few times in its history, Star Trek was prophetic. In the episode "Assignment: Earth", Spock says there are two public figures killed in 1968. (I have forgotten how to spell the "A" word.) In that terrible year, MLK Jr. and RFK were gunned down.
I don't make light of JFK's death. His death traumatized a nation and marked the beginning of the second civil war in America.
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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
I didn't start this topic to make light of his death. One of our greatest preisdents died that day, and I was just expressing my thoughts that the government killed him. It was depressing, as with Waco, but the evidence says the government wanted to stay in Vietnam. And if one day, I found out it was, with no doubt, Oswald, then I'll be wrong. Everyone can say it to me. But right now, I belive there was a conpiracy that day in Texas. Oh, it's a-s-s-a-s-s-i-n-a-t-e-d.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
C'mon...we all KNOW who killed Kennedy. It's just that no one has the balls to actually SAY it.
Gene Ray...show thyself.
"Jack Kennedy, you are educated stupid."
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
History Channel did a series on this. The last episode featured a man who has testified in over 200 cases, by taking film of the event, using a computer to determine what angles are involved. In this case, he said all three shots came from in front. Two from storm drains, below the street, and one from a drain near the grassy knole/knowl. (How ever it's spelled.)
Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
Knoll.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Yeah, "The Men who Killed Kennedy". Good series.
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
quote:Sorry, I gotta joke around. Anyway, it was Old Psyhco Braxton that killed John F. Kennedy.
Alright, who told you?!?!
[ August 20, 2001: Message edited by: Krenim ]
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
The same person who told him little JFK Jr. did it.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
