Well, if it does blow soon, hopefully it'll do it before I start saving to pay off my debts ... Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
The threat of an asteroid collision gave us Armageddon, Deep Impact, and a whole slate of TV movies on this theme. I can't wait to see Hollywood grab a hold of this one...
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
"...And well, this guy, Bruce Willis, he can see gamma rays, and so NASA needs to put him and his buddies on a space shuttle..."
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
And of course, within ten minutes of the star blowing up, the "shockwaves" reach Earth and destroy all life. And everyone on Earth can see the supernova at exactly the same time it occurs to the star itself. (Remember the Veridian star from Generations?)
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Well, as to the first, yeah, ok. But I'm not sure what you're getting at with the second. We see the star dim as soon as the diminished quantity of light gets to the planet.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
Assuming Veridian was in the same habitable belt of the system that Earth lies in, we can assume that like Earth, it is eight light-minutes from the sun (if not, the possibility that it lies at least 4 LM out still seems likely.. not much closer than that, unless Veridian-star has a greatly different makeup). In Generations, as soon as the missile launched, the sun went dim. It took the missile much less than that time to get to the sun (possibly it had a warp field) and then, the light dimmed instantaneously.
This is of course, dramatic license, as having the audience sit for about 6 minutes while Picard and Soran stand there waiting for effects of the explosion to reach them, chatting about the weather and such. Depending on your opinion of what the shockwave was made of, it probably got there too fast also, about a minute behind the dimming (possibly a convenient-to-the-writers subspace shockwave like our good Praxis incident? at least it seemed to be on more than one axis)
And was Genesis really rotating superfast? that whole night-day thing was wierd...
No, Star Trek has never really done well with that 'science' thing
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Ok, yes, obviously.
But I have heard otherwise reasonable people insist that the movie screwed up by having the star dim, and at the same time having it get dark on the planet, which of course is so not a screwup as to be totally unworthy of praise.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Yes, sorry for not being more clear before. I did mean that that the supernova would be seen on Earth (some 100 l.y. away) at almost precisely the exact same time the star goes supernova and is witnessed by some person or thing one light second away from it.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I take it that "almost precisely" allows a margin of error of a hundred years?
Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :
Perhaps it's a good idea to start devising some kind of planetary force field. 150 million years? That would be just right enough time to come up with a theory and to accumulate the needed building materials .
Or what about Doc's radiation inoculations? Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Hmm... do you think that this shock wave could include the dreaded "antimatter radiation"? *snicker*
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Antimatter radiation? I thought that the exploding star would give out chornoton particles? Didn't Kirk use our Sun to travel back in time?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote: No, Star Trek has never really done well with that 'science' thing
BULLSHITE!
This is Star Trek, here - yeah there may have been cases of dramatic license, but it's not feeking Star Wars!!
Andrew
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
^ Then again, some people don't do well with spelling ... bullshite?! Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
This goes on the bottom of my list of things to worry about. For end of the world doom-merchants, the impending collapse of a massive, partially underwater, mountain in the Canaries is far more worthy some worry lines.
This was announced last year, and geologists say it is on the verge of collapsing and plummetting into the ocean. It could happen anytime between today and 100 years from now. The Tsunami it would create would be akin to Deep Impact, destroying everything on east coast of the US, going inland several hundred miles, and most of Europe would disappear beneath mile high tidal waves.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Shit, bullshit; shite, bullshite. All that gun oil is obviously affecting your brain.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
What gun oil?
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Got some more information on that collapsing mountain, Admiral?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Red Admiral: The Tsunami it would create would be akin to Deep Impact, destroying everything on east coast of the US, going inland several hundred miles, and most of Europe would disappear beneath mile high tidal waves.
True, but once we'd dried off, we'd be left with a world lacking Canada and most of the US. I say we risk it.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
I'm over a kilometer above and 1000 km inland of any damn ocean. Bring it on.
[ May 26, 2002, 18:49: Message edited by: The_Tom ]
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Tom has just demanded the death of many of your country men.
I wouldn't be too happy about that if I was one of you, let me tell you.
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
Meh.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Oh, now that's just absurd. We wouldn't be wiped out. We'd just loose New York, DC, and Baltimore. All cities we can do without. Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Assuming we didn't want to make money any more.
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
Hey Tom after the wave we could go over and colonize their little island, that would be a switch.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
^ Not to mention all the southern states, Omega. YAY!
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Yep it's all true. But it's old news. For those that haven't heard of this story where the heck were you!? This story broke big time at the end of last year...
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
Not to worry, we have 150 million years give or take a hundred thousand to devise and build a defense for Earth (assuming that Earth and humans survive that long).
Byt the way is it my imgination, or is it that light is the fastest, and if the star(s) were to explode 150 lightyears away, any damage to Earth would have to wait at least 150 years. Of course the light that we from the star(s) on the moment of the explosion, would also have the shockwave tailing right behind, assuming of course that the shockwave is as fast as the speed of light.
Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :
OMG! I live in the Netherlands, 2.2 meters below sea level! Perhaps it *is* time to emigrate to Tibet or something... Indeed, it's not the star I'm worrying about.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
*mutters something about infernal Maritime provinces*
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
This 150 million year talk is comforting and all, but this particular star could explode tomorrow, or could have already exploded, and the visible indications would be traveling hand in hand with with enough radiation to give Earth a serious sunburn.
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
Either way we are not going to care for long.
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
Welcome to Sea Travels 2010! And on our right we can see Lake Netherlands, the world's biggest lake!
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Lake Europe, more likely. Including the land of the turnips.
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
"Sir, you are talking to a turnip!" Senior Turnip-raftsman Nimpim, to be specific.
My genetically enhanced fatty-turnips have a floating property of +20, not cunting stamina and poindexterity. And 5% damage taken goes to charity.
The turnips are all around us, binds us together. They're in the raft...the ground...our tummies.
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
I hate turnips. Go eat garlic, they're good for you.
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
Love/hate doesn't factor into it. Turnips are.
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
I do not like turnips. They taste and look bad. Looks like a deformed potato.
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