I'm currently writing a research paper on beverages. Right now, I'm trying to divide the beverage universe into various subcategories. What I've come up with thus far:
Water Juice Milk Alcohol Brewed (coffee, tea) Carbonated Non-carbonated sugar-water (orange-flavored drink, kool-aid, etc)
I'm looking for any information on drinks that don't fit into any of these categories, as well as any interesting or unique suggestions for specific areas for me to research. Any ideas?
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
What would Soy Milk be classified as? It's not real animals milk, and it's not really juice. I'm acutally quite interested in this, Is this for psychology, or some kind of biology class in college?
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
English, actually. And as for soy milk... good point. I'll have to look into that. Thanks!
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
I'm not sure if I agree with alcohol as either a single category, or as a category at all - ultimately it's just a chemical added to other liquids. Beer? Carbonated. Wine? Fermented juice. But then there's spirits, what would they be classed as?
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Can you clarify the difference between alcohol and spirits? I've never found anyone who could explain it.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
#8: Blood.
In the south of Sweden (only), on M�rten G�s-day, when you eat a goose, you traditionally use the blood in a soup, Svart-soppa (Black-soup). Supposed to be very nicely seasoned, though I've never tried it.
We don't use it for a beverage of course, but there must be some culture that has, or is.
So, hemoglobin mixed with plasma, iron and water, the eighth spot there.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Petroleum products. That includes things like Sterno, moonshine, & the quart of aviation fuel a friend of mine in the Air Force used to start every day off with. Of course, his favorite drink was a mixture of ouzo & akvavit, so...
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
At the end of the day, spirits are just alcohol solutions with added ingredients. I'm not even sure how most spirits are made. Similar to wines I assume, like whiskys ferment for years in casks. . .
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
My definitions may be squewed, but I always viewed alcohol as an ingredient, and spirits as a type of drink. Wine contains alcohol. Wisky contains alcohol. Beer contains alcohol. Wisky is a spirit. Beer isn't.
So, basically, beer isn't a spirit. Gin, wisky, vodka et al are spirits. Wine...I suddenly forget. I think it is, or it might be it's own catagory.
Beer can also be broken down into roughly three groups: Larger, Bitter and Stout. And ale. Is ale a bitter? Or different? Or is it one of those things that's only different if you have a flat cap and beard?
Also, I don't know if it counts as a seperate catagory, but what about those energy drinks, like Red Bull, or Lucozade, or whatever they have in the US? Stuff with glycogen, caffine, taurine etc? Not stuff like Coke, stuff that's actually advertised as giving you energy?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
With petroleum and airplane fuel, we're kind of rubbing out the line between beverages and liquid-form substances in general, no?
I think the criteria for a beverage is that it is sold/handled for the purpose of ingesting.
I can drink paint thinner but that doesn't make it an accepted beverage. Unless... No, that is too diabolical.
Perhaps blood and milk go together? Well not literally, but in the grouping. Organic but non-vegetarian beverages. Then we can forget blood and keep milk as the representative for organic, non-vegitarian drinks. What else is there? Urine and saliva. Some indian gurus drink their own piss verily.
The Bureau of Blood, Milk and Piss has endorsed this post, btw. We just want people to have the right picture.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
what about those energy drinks, like Red Bull, or Lucozade, or whatever they have in the US? Stuff with glycogen, caffine, taurine etc? Not stuff like Coke, stuff that's actually advertised as giving you energy?
I'm classifying that with the powdered stuff. Maybe I should call that "artificial". I suppose coke would fall under the same category, but carbonated drinks are so prevalent now that they kinda deserve a section of their own.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Yes, organic and synthetic should be separated.
Apropeau organic, there's that trademark beverage from that satirical Gangsta Rap parody movie "Niggaz With Hatz", Booty Juice.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Omega: what about those energy drinks, like Red Bull, or Lucozade, or whatever they have in the US? Stuff with glycogen, caffine, taurine etc? Not stuff like Coke, stuff that's actually advertised as giving you energy?
I'm classifying that with the powdered stuff. Maybe I should call that "artificial". I suppose coke would fall under the same category, but carbonated drinks are so prevalent now that they kinda deserve a section of their own.
But none of that stuff is powdered. At least not over here. A lot of them have a nice line in being spirit mixers too.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
I lump them in with alcopops and what used to be called wine coolers, all together as alcoholic carbonated drinks.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
hot chocolate soup stock vinegar essence (vanilla etc) brine urine
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
What about milk shakes and malts? And where does gatorade go? Flavored water like Aquafina? Oh, and how about flavored lube?
Posted by Tora Regina (Member # 53) on :
I think milkshakes and malts would be under milk, gatorade and flavored lube under artificial stuff.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
The prevalent energy drink around here is KMX. Tastes like orange pop, but its got something in it... I forget. One of those herby-things.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
rm *.*
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Brine and urine? Beverages? Are you having money problems? Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
I'm just glad no one's mentioned seman yet...
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
That's less of a drink & more of a protein product.
Posted by Cartmaniac (Member # 256) on :
I prefer to think of it as Power Juice.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
They say the energy contained in semen, proteinic or otherwise, is too low, it takes more energy from the body to break down and utilize it. Besides, that's not what it's there for.
Try telling that to Chie Sakamachi! Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
OMG... the girls are straight??? No gay folk?
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
The internet is like the best ever, surely.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
How about Similac� and other similar beverages used as infant formulas? I guess either way it would fit into a similar category as perhaps soy milk, as I believe in its many varietys it is made of milk and non-lactose varieties made of whey and soy.
I may be wrong, but I reecall my gf telling me that some NHL hockey players drink Similac� becuase it infuses more carbs or energy or whatever its exact purpose is again (I forget) than what Gatorade or Powerade or whatever nasty shitte people drink to replenish their carbs.
Also cough syrup...and what about maple syrup and honey? Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Well, those aren't exactly your everyday beverages, now are they?
What about vegetable-based drinks, like tomato juice, carrot juice, V8, etc?
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
quote:Originally posted by Topher: Well, those aren't exactly your everyday beverages, now are they?
WTF is your beef with me, eh?
Beverage: a drinkable liquid.
The post is about beverages (a la "I'm currently writing a research paper on beverages'). Therefore it would seem that formula would be a beverage if you were a baby.
And I do believe honey is an additive to tea and so forth...so they seem to be higher qualifiers than blood or semen. Either way it is a drinkable liquid and they (syrup and honey) do come from sources other than what was already mentioned
quote: What about vegetable-based drinks, like tomato juice, carrot juice, V8, etc?
I believe this falls under the "juice category" as fruits and vegitables generally fall within the same "food group".
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Anyone who drinks honey like water deserves what they get, which will be: a beating. Weirdos.
And I see no evidence of beef.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Actually, not to sound totally insane regarding honey beverages, the ancient Russians drank many different honey beverages such as "perevar" and "braga" which were alcoholic (they also used molasses).
This might be interesting to note...there is a drink called mead, or honey wine, which is widely considered the world's first alcoholic drink first made by the ancient Greeks. This is the original "nectar of the gods."
Mead, in essence, is honey, water and yeast for fermentation, with spices and fruits often added for flavor variation. It is simpler to make than beer, and while meadmakers once had to boil the honey to sterilize it and wait up to two years for the product to age, mead can now be cold-filtered and can ferment in two to three months.
Im actually half tempted to try to make the stuff sometime.....
[ March 15, 2003, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: Futurama Guy ]
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Honey might go into mead, but that doesn't make it a beverage anymore than hops are, and I cannot believe we are having this discussion.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Actually the most basic recipe of mead is honey, water and yeast, hops are optional. But in itself, honey is a unique substance, not quite fitting into other categories....
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
My point was that honey:mead::hops:beer.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Honey is not a beverage for my purposes. You do not sit down with a glass of honey at lunch.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
I dunno, hot water with a mixture of honey is great for when you have a sore throat.
I mean you're counting tea and coffee as beverages, but you don't literally drink a glass of coffee beans or tea leaves, you drink their diffuse (can't think of a better word) counterparts. I don't really see why the diffuse version of honey would be all that different.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Well, if one was to drink honey in such a manner, it would qualify under the brewed beverages category, I suppose. Of course, since nobody actually does that except when they have a sore throat...
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
However, when all is said and done, pretty much everything is, chemically, little more than water and sugar anyway.
Alcohol is chemically just water and sugar; juices are little more water and suger; coffee/tea is little more than a rearrangement of water and sugar and nitrogen (addributed to the caffeine); soda/coke/pop/softdrinks are water (carbonated) and sugar; the list goes on and on.
So whether you are squeezing an apple; brewing beer or making a cup of coffeem, when it all comes down to it, technically the only distinction between most the majority of the listed beverages is in by which 'process' they are made or what food group from which the 'additive' is derived.
It's not worth debating....its Omega's paper so its really up to him. It should just be noted that the process and additive are the only distinctions in the majority of the instances listed.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Alcohol is chemically just water and sugar..."
Alcohol is as much sugar and water as a telephone is.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
A Chocolate Telephone?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Yum!
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Actually, I've changed my topic. I'm focusing on milk now. Thanks for all the help, and if anyone has any suggestions on that topic, please, do tell. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Milk, eh? I recommend conducting an in-depth study of the human mammary apparatus...
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Alcohol has the same elements as sugar. Being Carbon, Hydrogen, and Oxygen. but the way it is arranged makes it different. Alcohol is created through fermentation. AKA: anearobic respiration. In fact ethyl alcohol is produced in rising bread, but it evaporates when it's baked... And people think they never use biology. Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Alcohol is composed of the same elements as sugar, yes. It is also made of the same elements as acetic acid, methanal, ether, etc. I don't think you'd want to drink any of those (well, maybe the acetic acid. But why you'd want to drink it is beyond me).
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
There's a big difference between the very specific "sugar and water" and "any molecule made of hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen". It'd be like saying a human is a panda, because they both have arms, legs, lungs, etc.
Posted by Cartmaniac (Member # 256) on :
Humans and pandas are both mammals, like sugar and alcohol are both hydrocarbons.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Ooooohhhh. . .
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
More specifically, sugar and alcohol are oxy-hydrocarbons. Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
And I would think there are some liquids that aren't sugar-based, like acids, ammonia, chlorine. They don't taste like sugar, at any rate.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Ouch.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Humans and pandas are both mammals, like sugar and alcohol are both hydrocarbons."
Exactly. They both fall under a particular category, while still being vastly different.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Fresh squeezed walrus juice
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: Actually, not to sound totally insane regarding honey beverages, the ancient Russians drank many different honey beverages such as "perevar" and "braga" which were alcoholic (they also used molasses).
This might be interesting to note...there is a drink called mead, or honey wine, which is widely considered the world's first alcoholic drink first made by the ancient Greeks. This is the original "nectar of the gods."
Mead, in essence, is honey, water and yeast for fermentation, with spices and fruits often added for flavor variation. It is simpler to make than beer, and while meadmakers once had to boil the honey to sterilize it and wait up to two years for the product to age, mead can now be cold-filtered and can ferment in two to three months.
Im actually half tempted to try to make the stuff sometime.....
I have had the privlage of drinking good Mead. It was wonderful.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
I wonder what privlage means.
Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :
You aught to know, since you've had it... Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Ouch. I didn't know that you could hold liquid nitrogen in your mouth, i'll have to ask my chem teacher about that. And I saw on Guiness prime time someone held molten lead in thier mouth for a time.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Last time I had a pizza straight out of the oven it felt like molten lead, does that count?
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