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Posted by AllansFirebird (Member # 1331) on :
 
I'm missing a few pages from Mr. Scott's Guide. I need the transporter room page, the uniforms and insignia, and the shuttle schematics.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
You the same Firebird from SSM?
If so: WELCOME!

If not: GO TO HELL!


Just kidding- We cherish each new member as part of our ever expanding family of love.
 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Especially if you're a disabled midget.

It sounds you're missing about half the book there. You might be better off spending a few cents on eBay and getting a new one.
 
Posted by AllansFirebird (Member # 1331) on :
 
No, I'm just missing about 4-5 pages. I just want my copy to be complete again. I don't have the option of using eBay or amazon.com
 
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
How can one not have the option? You have the internet, so therefore the option exists.

You have a legitmate email address that is generally accepted to join those sites because you were able to join this site, so therefore the option exists.

Everyone has a credit card or a bank account or, you know, cash...like say $5.00, so the payment options exist.

So unless you are just plain cheap...and or like 12 and your parents hate you and force you live in a closet with your own porno and feces, it would seem to the rest of us that the options does indeed exist.
 
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 
You can also check second-hand book sites, like Bookfinder.com. They probably have dozens of copies available for a few bucks.
 
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
 
I don't have a credit card
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Do you have a bank account? If so, you probably have a debit card which can be used just as easily as a credit card.
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
OK some people here have no qualms about scanning half the encyclopaedia or the tech-guides but not a few measly pages of a crappy black-and-white book that the guy ALREADY owns that happens to be missing a few pages!?!

*boggle*
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dat:
Do you have a bank account? If so, you probably have a debit card which can be used just as easily as a credit card.

Not if you're in Canada.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Ha! ha! Canada!
Man, that's funny.
 
Posted by AllansFirebird (Member # 1331) on :
 
Okay, I don't have any of the internet options because I'm only 15, I don't have a checking account, and my parents are scared shitless to allow me to do any dealings with online shopping (cause my dad works in a credit card fraud prevention department). Plus, I don't want to go that way either. That's why I don't have the option.

So, what's so damn wrong about scanning a couple of pages from one book?
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Why should he have to purchase a WHOLE new book!?! Where's the heart kids?

Unless AllansFirebird just downloaded scans of the book in the first place and can't find the remaining pages then - well tough. But! As I said - most people here have no qualms scanning the fucked files, the communicator, and half the Trek books - why not a few pages of a crappy black and white book?

BTW, I would if i could - but I don't have the book.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AllansFirebird:
So, what's so damn wrong about scanning a couple of pages from one book?

Technically? It's copyright infringement. Realistically? Nothing.

I think I have the book at home. If I can remember, I'll bring it in tomorrow and scan them.
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
d'oh
 
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
I didn't hear a "please" in the initial post...
 
Posted by AllansFirebird (Member # 1331) on :
 
Oops, I generally forget the please parts in requesting. Sorry about that.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Topher:
quote:
Originally posted by Dat:
Do you have a bank account? If so, you probably have a debit card which can be used just as easily as a credit card.

Not if you're in Canada.
I refuse to believe that Canada doesn't have a Switch, Delta, Maestro or equivalent card.

No offence, but I'm curious...your dad works for a credit card fraud company, and so he refuses to use it over the internet? Why not refuse to use it in a shop too? I can understand being paranoid about giving the details out to anyone, but I think that, after all this time, Amazon can probably be trusted.
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Really, credit card usage over the internet is safer than giving it over to someone at a physical store or restaurant or whatever. Of course, you must make sure you are providing your card number and expiration date over a secure server.

And yes, Amazon can be trusted, even when you're buying used copies of whatever from third party sellers. And you can also trust Paypal and Half.com You can used paypal to pay for purchases off ebay provided the seller accepts paypal payments.
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Maybe it's the fact his father mightn't want to give his fifteen-year-old access to his credit card on the internet! [Wink]
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
He can still pay for ebay purchases with a money order.
 
Posted by AllansFirebird (Member # 1331) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
Maybe it's the fact his father mightn't want to give his fifteen-year-old access to his credit card on the internet! [Wink]

Bingo! However, my parents might allow me to do money orders.
 
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
They really dont need to 'allow' such a thing do they? I mean you walk into your local Walmart, bank, or gas station and slap down X amount of dollars, say "I want a money order, bitch" and 'Bingo!' you're in business...mail it off and really? 'Allow'? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
I refuse to believe that Canada doesn't have a Switch, Delta, Maestro or equivalent card.

As I understand it, in the US and the EU there's something called a check (sic) card which is tied into a chequing account and can also be used as a credit card. We don't have that in Canada. At least, that's what my bank told me when I inquired about one. Also, when a travelling yank was into my work, they paid with a check card but the debit machine didn't recognize it as a debit card and put it through as a credit card.
 
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Topher:
As I understand it, in the US and the EU there's something called a check (sic) card which is tied into a chequing account and can also be used as a credit card. We don't have that in Canada. At least, that's what my bank told me when I inquired about one. Also, when a travelling yank was into my work, they paid with a check card but the debit machine didn't recognize it as a debit card and put it through as a credit card.

That is basically it. I have a check card (not sure the technical term) which acts as either a credit card (Mastercard), which requires a signature, or debit card (Pulse, Cirrus), which requires a pin number.

Whatever the case may be, it only works as a credit card with what money you have in your checking account at that time, or however long it takes to process the purchase (roughly 24hrs), and is not the 'free-money-plus-interest' card like a true credit card buys you (up until you get the bill at the end of the month).

All I know is that it is damn convenient (especially at gas stations), most of the time.
 
Posted by machf (Member # 1233) on :
 
I use one like that for purchases over the Internet. Earlier this year they started charging $1.00/month for maintenance costs, but beofre that it was cost-free. And since you only have access to the amount you have in the account at the moment, there's not much of a problem if you lose it or it's stolen.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
"Checking account" would seem to be an Americanism which I'm going to assume is the equivalent of "current account". Ie, your main one.

I think FG explained it best, although I will attempt to do better:

Basically, it's like an instant cheque. You pay for something using it like you would a credit card, and the money just gets taken out of your account instantly (or rather, within a day). They're accepted everywhere credit cards are (so all shops, essentially). You can use them on the internet, and everything. A Delta is the Visa version. Anywhere that accepts Visa accepts Delta. I assume that if I tried to use it in Canada, it would be put through the machine as a Visa, but the money would still come directly out of my account.

All our cards still use signitures, but they're changing over to pin numbers now.

Topher: What do you mean, "it didn't recognise it as a debit card"? Don't you just swipe the card, and get them to type in their pin/sign the receipt? How was it any different?

Pretty much all my friends (and most people my age) use them instead of cash for all their purchases, since it's much more convenient that hunting for a cashpoint everytime you want to buy something. In fact, the only time I always use money is at the pub. Apart from that, it's cards.

It's like the future, or something.
 
Posted by JC Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
Wow, England has caught up to 1998.
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
For a debit card, I swipe the card and they enter their pin. For a credit card, I swipe the card, the transaction goes through, and they sign the receipt. No pin needed. And a chequing account is the one that's tied to cheques, but hardly anyone uses those anymore...
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"'Checking account' would seem to be an Americanism which I'm going to assume is the equivalent of 'current account'. Ie, your main one."

A checking account is the account from which the money comes when you write a check (or "cheque", if you insist). It typically doesn't gain any interest (or, perhaps, less than other types of accounts; I know mine has none). Essentially, it's the account you put money into that you intend to use, as opposed to a savings account where you put money in and leave it there to accrue interest.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I still use checks to pay all my bills (because I'm a neanderthal). I have my checking account at a Credit Union and it does gain interest, but only a tiny bit. I only make a few bucks every months. When I set up the account, it came with a debit card that also acts as my ATM card. I could use it to pay for purchases, but I never have.
 
Posted by machf (Member # 1233) on :
 
Oddly enough, the "card for purchases over the Internet" (that's what it's called, literally) for some reason is treated as a savings account when making any operations at the bank, even though technically it is not (no interests gained and now a monthly charge).
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Do they really not having debit cards in Canada?

It must be because it is hard to get the ATMs wired on the ice floes!!!

I don't have a debit card or a checking account, and only use cash.
 
Posted by JC Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
WE ARE REALLY NOT HAVING DEBIT CARDS IN CANADA!

Believe it.

Or not.
 
Posted by JC Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
"Do they really not having debit cards in Canada?"
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
OK... I lied. I don't have Mr. Scott's Guide. I have the Starfleet Technical Manual.

Don't be mad. At least I finally remembered to look. It's the thought, you know.
 
Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JC Ultra Magnus:
WE ARE REALLY NOT HAVING DEBIT CARDS IN CANADA!

Is this one of those "All your base are belong to us" things?
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:
I don't have a debit card or a checking account, and only use cash.

This is strange and unusual behaviour.
 
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:

I don't have a debit card or a checking account, and only use cash.

Weird, so what do you do when you get a paycheque?
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Doesn't everyone who isn't 50 just get their wages paid directly into their account, nowadays?
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
Actually, I don't. I work at the provincial museum and because I'm not on contract or in the union or anything I get a cheque that I deposit to my account. And yes we do have debit cards in Canada. I hardly use anything else.
 
Posted by machf (Member # 1233) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mucus:
quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:

I don't have a debit card or a checking account, and only use cash.

Weird, so what do you do when you get a paycheque?
Go cash it at the bank, like anyone would?
 
Posted by machf (Member # 1233) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
Doesn't everyone who isn't 50 just get their wages paid directly into their account, nowadays?

My mother is over 60 and she does. Of course, it's me who has to go to the ATM because she can't/won't learn how to use it yet.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by machf:
quote:
Originally posted by Mucus:
Weird, so what do you do when you get a paycheque?

Go cash it at the bank, like anyone would?
"Anyone" would get it paid straight into their bank account, unless they liked queuing at a bank once a week for no logical reason.

quote:
Originally posted by Topher:
And yes we do have debit cards in Canada. I hardly use anything else.

So you're saying that all the other Canadians in this thread are either

a/ liars, or
b/ idiots.
 
Posted by JC Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
I totally was making fun of Simon.
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
Everyone I know has a debit card. Maybe Saint John is an anomaly in Canada...
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"Of course, it's me who has to go to the ATM because she can't/won't learn how to use it yet."

Just stop doing it. When she runs out of money, she'll be ready to learn.
 
Posted by AllansFirebird (Member # 1331) on :
 
So, when are you guys going to stop the debate on ATM's and all that shit? I'd really like those page scans, please.

How the hell did you start talking about Canadian funds? I'm from the fucking US!
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Yah you guys! Come on! Stop screwing around. You're here to serve.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AllansFirebird:
How the hell did you start talking about Canadian funds? I'm from the fucking US!

I'm fucking not though.

And if you're from the fucking US, you can get a debit card. Problem solved!

Tim is right about how to get your mum to use an ATM. It's what we forced her to do. Likewise, they only way my and my brother could get our parents to use email themselves was by refusing to help (after the initial learning period of...roughly 6 months). Of course, this blows up in our faces when we have to spend ages scrubbing a virus that my dad has downloaded because he thinks that his bank really does want him to open that file entiled "money.bat".
 
Posted by machf (Member # 1233) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
quote:
Originally posted by machf:
quote:
Originally posted by Mucus:
Weird, so what do you do when you get a paycheque?

Go cash it at the bank, like anyone would?
"Anyone" would get it paid straight into their bank account, unless they liked queuing at a bank once a week for no logical reason.

So, let me rephrase that for you then:

Go cash it at the bank, like anyone in that situation would?
 
Posted by machf (Member # 1233) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AllansFirebird:
So, when are you guys going to stop the debate on ATM's and all that shit? I'd really like those page scans, please.

Well, it seems that, although we all know the book in question, noone has bothered buying it...
 
Posted by JC Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
I'm from the fucking Canada.

As opposed to the non-fucking Canada.

Which, actually, is totally where I'm from.

Maybe if I had more money and a cool car.

One day.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I remember a friend of mine had it. Turns out when he got to college he realized he had been gay all through high school even though he got to second with one of the hottest girls in school. True story.

It's the book that has all the Starfleet fonts in it, right?
 
Posted by AllansFirebird (Member # 1331) on :
 
Yes, that has the fonts.
 
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
 
Originally posted by machf:
quote:
Well, it seems that, although we all know the book in question, noone has bothered buying it...
I own it. Back when I bought it (right after Star Trek IV came out), it didn't have a whole lot of competition.

Of course, I don't own a scanner....


Marian
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Cash be what meant to use.
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Sigh. All right, since no scans are forthcoming, this better take a hike. See ya at the Lounge.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:
Cash be what meant to use.

Cash for pub. Cards for everything else. Law.
 
Posted by Toadkiller (Member # 425) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AllansFirebird:
I'm missing a few pages from Mr. Scott's Guide. I need the transporter room page, the uniforms and insignia, and the shuttle schematics.

Dude -

If they haven't scared you off yet (non-fucking part of Canada indeed)

Check your private messages. I'll leave how as a lesson in Flare basics (that and learning to ignore most everyone is all you'll need)
 


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