Wow. Now I'm not a parent but...busy area...toddler...I'd be holding the kid's hand at every single second and re-checking that he was attached to it every minute or two. Hell, in an *airport,* I'd have the kid on a leash like my mom used to do to me after that time I wandered off in the department store...
Posted by HopefulNebula (Member # 1933) on :
I wandered off in an airport when I was that age.
For about ten seconds.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Wait, a leash?
ANyway, you'd figure that would be on the pre flight checklist.
Did anyone actually read the article? The toddler was traveling with several adults who were split up in different sections of the plane, and each adult thought the kid was with someone else. The kid was lost from miscommunication, not carelessness. (Well, not carelessness per se; not the thoughtless kind, anyway.)
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I read it and my comment stands. Hand holding, kid-checking, constantly. I would never assume "someone else had the kid."
Sean: Yeah, they have kiddie leashes that attach to a wrist cuff on the kid (I've seen full-body harnesses for especially problematic kids).
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
So, it's your belief that every one of the adults in the group should have kept a constant hand-hold on the child? And, what, just cut the kid into multiple pieces when they go to sit down in different parts of the plane.
There were four adults. Even if one of them had been holding the child, that still means three of them would be required to assume someone else had him.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
No, it is my belief that one of the adults should have been assigned toddler duty. One or two deos baggage, one does kid duty, one does what ever. Or, yes, cut the kid up for easy storage.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Precisely what I meant, Ritten.
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
If I were that kids parents, i'd be ashamed to show my face again. That's inexcusable. A mother who could forget her three year old shouldn't have kids in the first place.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
"Rosenfeld said police would question the couple when they return from vacation, on suspicion of parental negligence."
What? Why not question them *now*? That's a serious charge. I'm sure if they asked the French authorities for permission they wouldn't say no. What if these idiots accidentally drop the kid off a bridge or something?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, except, it's not a charge. Just suspicion. I don't think you can get someone extradited for questioning.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I didn't mean extradite them, I meant question them in France.
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
Heard about that one on Fox News this morning. I'd certainly agree with the dad here:
quote:Kamens says the number of people who failed to do their jobs is "mindboggling."
BTW, the father has a blog post describing the events a bit better.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Why would anyone put a ten-year-old on a plane by herself in the first place?
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
There is supposed to be programmes to allow kids to fly on their own. A member of the flight crew is supposed to be assigned to the child from departure to arrival. Somebody dropped the ball here.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: Why would anyone put a ten-year-old on a plane by herself in the first place?
When I was four and my sister was seven, we flew by ourselves twice a year- shuttling between Miami and Detroit- as our parents each had custody for half the year.
We were never really too afraid and we had written instructions on where to wait when we got off the plane. I recall always getting those little plastic planes that Delta would give to kids to play with and keep.
Though, sadly, the world has become a much more dangerous place for children since the early 80's.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Yes, back in those days men didn't have urges because they simply had no genitals, and if they were evil they had the word "Viper" somewhere in their name so that was a nobrainer. Also, they had great posture because of the holes in their shoes.
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nim: Yes, back in those days men didn't have urges because they simply had no genitals, and if they were evil they had the word "Viper" somewhere in their name so that was a nobrainer. Also, they had great posture because of the holes in their shoes.
Who said it was just men responsible? Or that it's all sex related crimes? I'm not just making generalities- crimes against children have skyrocketed in the past twenty years- yes, in part it's the media's willingness to cover such cases but the number of cases reported to authorities is shocking.
Recently, a child was tied to a tree in the heat for a day by his parents as "discipline" and died from dehydration and heat stroke. Such things would have been a national outrage when I was a kid but hardly makes national news today. Kids go missing and it's not even reported on the news....
It's pretty fucked up.
Of course, we tolerate people putting their children on leashes at the mall, so it's all relative.