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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
 
http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/760654--so-we-drink-milk-from-bags-does-that-make-us-weird
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
She's really cute. But I feel uncomfortable around women whose last names I have no idea how to pronounce. Is it "ing"? Or do I have to do some weird thing with the back of my throat?
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
I have to wonder at the practicality of storing any liquid in a bag. I mean it's bound to roll off the shelf, no? Or do Canadian fridges come with little hooks to hang the bags? The mind boggles.
 
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
 
Given the title, I'm stunned that Pensive hasn't posted anything in here yet.

Milk in bags just seems weird to me. But then those little square cartons freaked me out for awhile. I'd be worried about something sharp piercing the bag and it dribbling all over the place. So in the picture she's holding a pitcher. Is the idea, that you buy the bag and get it home and then cut it open and pour it into one of those, or do you keep it in the fridge in the bag? Keep it in the bag in the pitcher? Anyway, Canadians are weird.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Yes, you keep the bag in a pitcher. You can buy them at the grocery store right with the milk. Here, we have the option of 1L or 2L cartons, 2L jugs, and the bags. They come 3 in a bigger bag. In my family we used to store the milk bags in one of the fridge's crisper drawers before they were opened and put in the pitcher. To be honest, I'm not quite sure why we made the switch from bags to cartons... might have something to do with a drop in milk intake. *shrug*
 
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
 
*shrug* As the article points out the technology originated in Europe, the UK is switching, and its already in use in China and India. Thus, I think that there are more milk bag users than milk jug users.

I'm kinda surprised that this is an issue.

Also, there are multiple different pronunciations and Romanizations that lead to and from Ng. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng
You'd probably have to find out what language the name was Romanized from. There is a decent chance that that the sound is one that European languages lack
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velar_nasal
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Maybe we should ask Mark Nguyen? [Wink]
 
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
 
Ng is pronounced as "ing". This is a Chinese name.

Nguyen is pronounced as "nuyen", AFAIK. This is a Vietnamese name so the pronounciation is different.
 
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bX:
Given the title, I'm stunned that Pensive hasn't posted anything in here yet.

Milk in bags just seems weird to me. But then those little square cartons freaked me out for awhile. I'd be worried about something sharp piercing the bag and it dribbling all over the place. So in the picture she's holding a pitcher. Is the idea, that you buy the bag and get it home and then cut it open and pour it into one of those, or do you keep it in the fridge in the bag? Keep it in the bag in the pitcher? Anyway, Canadians are weird.

Yes we are. I hope I passed on some of my weirdness to you when I was in SJ back in 2008.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
quote:
*shrug* As the article points out the technology originated in Europe, the UK is switching, and its already in use in China and India.
We are are we? News to me mate. Since this is for some reason a point for discussion, over here we just have the bog standard cartons and the 1, 2, 3, 4 & 6 litre screw-top plastic bottles. I think the milkmen still use the old returnable 1pt glass bottles with the foil caps. We had those when I was just a lad, but the local dairy got a little unreliable and a lot more expensive so we switched to the supermarket variety.
 
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
 
All I've seen here in the UK is the same as Rev, 90% plastic screwtop bottles and a few of those cartons. Bag of milk is just plain weird, it's like they're deliberately looking for a transport method that is entirely unsuited to the task. Not that I drink milk anyway. Cow secretions? Bleugh!
 
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bX:
Given the title, I'm stunned that Pensive hasn't posted anything in here yet.

there's a word... for this.. uh... straws...

like trying to pleasure your GF, not with your tongue but a straw.... a 4 mile long straw... that's like the intraweb in the middle of some big sea... my computer hooked up to a 4 mile long straw....

what was the subject matter again? clearly it's not about fun bags :/
 
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reverend:
We are are we?

*shrug* It's in the article. Maybe they screwed up their research?
quote:
The U.K. is in the midst of a painful switch to bags, driven by complaints that Britons refuse to recycle jugs. When they first appeared a couple of years ago, the Daily Mail sounded the alarm: “End of the milk bottle? Supermarket begins selling milk in a BAG.”

 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Don't believe everything you read, especially if it cites the Daily Mail.

As for refusing to recycle. We really don't have much of a choice. I think in some areas local councils have started fining people if they don't put out their recycling bins. If I recall some were even supposed have tracking devices. It's all getting a bit Orwellian down here.

I have half a mind to move up to Scotland. You're still governed by a parliament full of Scots, but I gather that particular lot of jocks actually have half a clue what they're doing.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I'm not sure what to make of the last two lines of the article. First, what is a "ketchup chip"? How can you make a chip out of a liquid? And second, what do they think Americans would find weird about pickle chips?
 
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Saltah'na:
Yes we are. I hope I passed on some of my weirdness to you when I was in SJ back in 2008.

Indeed. And if I'd known that you poured your milk from a bag...

Actually with the pitcher and all, it doesn't really sound all that weird and it does make sense. There's some means to close the top while you're not using it, n'est pas? The steepled (that a word?) paper cartons we use and to which I am accustomed must be extremely wasteful by comparison. I'd still be freaked out about the bag getting punctured or torn in transit, but maybe they're tougher than I'm imagining.
 
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
 
Tough or not, it would be like trying to pour a glass of water out of a water balloon. That is, a disaster waiting to happen. You can go too far with trying to recycle and reduce, there are some things you really cant mess around with too much. We're forced to recycle our cartons and plastic bottles here anyway, so no great loss.

As for our Scottish parliament, as with pretty much every government it's filled with ambitious, power hungry people with no experience or training in running huge organisations and who will lie at the drop of a hat. Politicians.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
With the milk bags, you gut the corner off and there is no covering of the milk while its in your fridge. Once you open the bag its open until its empty. Cut it across the top, rinse it out, and you have a bag that's good for putting stuff in the freezer with. And they're actually very easy to pour.

As for the ketchup and dill pickle chips, its a flavouring on potato chips. Which I'm presuming is not common or even found anywhere in the US.
 
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bX:
Indeed. And if I'd known that you poured your milk from a bag...

Actually with the pitcher and all, it doesn't really sound all that weird and it does make sense. There's some means to close the top while you're not using it, n'est pas? The steepled (that a word?) paper cartons we use and to which I am accustomed must be extremely wasteful by comparison. I'd still be freaked out about the bag getting punctured or torn in transit, but maybe they're tougher than I'm imagining. [/QB]

Punctured bags are a common thing around here, although the bags are indeed a little tougher than most. The outside bag that carries the milk is not as tough as the milk bags themselves. Most Canadians are smart enough to ensure that when carrying bagged milk home, it goes in its own bag, so to prevent the leak from affecting your other grocery purchases.

Some of the common things that happen include but are not limited to:
- a puddle of milk in the bottom of your refrigerator or leaking from your refrigerator
- wet-from-leaking-milk car interiors.
- the "milk-trail-from-fridge-to-counter"
- the "exploding bag" during transport

Just yesterday, I was carrying a box of groceries when a carton of Tropicana OJ fell out of the box and slammed flat onto the ground. The carton did not break after the impact, so I was quite impressed with its durability. As for milk bags, I've dropped them many times before, only once did they rupture.

As for the chips thing, if you think we've got it weird, then you don't know the half of it. A friend came back from Europe with a couple of bags of Tzatziki, Chili, Curry, Basil and Olive, Oregano, and Wasabi chips. A quick trip to the local supermarket also revealed BBQ Ribs, General Tao's Chicken, Ranch, Buffalo Wings, Fries and Gravy, Salsa, and Blue Cheese.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Yeah, Loblaw's has their own line of chips that have some funky flavours.
 
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
 
Go to your local chinese supermarket and see if you can find the 'Squid & Honey' flavour chips/crisps. Bizarre is not the word for how they taste.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"As for the ketchup and dill pickle chips, its a flavouring on potato chips."

That's... not even a possibility that occurred to me. That's awful.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Ketchup chips are actually quite tasty.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Marmite crips ftw.
 
Posted by Zipacna (Member # 1881) on :
 
Marmite crips are fantastic! They are the god of crisps...all hail the Mighty Marm!

For bizareness, you can't beat those chocolate chili flavour crisps Walkers tried last year. They were beyond weird!
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Just don't eat vegemite bloods with your marmite crips, or the resulting shoot-out could injure innocent bystanders in your mouth.
 
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Axeman 3D:
Go to your local chinese supermarket and see if you can find the 'Squid & Honey' flavour chips/crisps. Bizarre is not the word for how they taste.

You know these chips are not "North American Made".
 
Posted by Josh (Member # 1884) on :
 
Huh...I didn't know milk bags were uncommon outside Canada and the UK. I grew up with them but switched to carton milk when I moved on my own for no other reason than to avoid buying a pitcher.

Interesting none the less.
 
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
 
I wouldn't call them common in the UK. Most of the milk, if not all of it at the supermarkets near me is still in 1,2,4 or 6 pint plastic bottles. The orange one that likes Jamie Oliver had the bags for a bit, but I've not seen them for a while.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Milk is vile. I would not drink human milk, much less that hormone-infested bovine pus.

Statements made by Jason Abbadon are not endorsed by America's Dairy Farmers
 


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