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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :
 
Should hate be outlawed? Should anyone showing behavior hateful toward another person or group be arrested? If no, then what specifically are 'hate crimes" ?

Thoughts please.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Ooh, here's an issue that I'm sure there will be no strife over.

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Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
 
I hate people that are noise when I am trying to sleep. Do I need to go to jail?
 
Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :
 
Help! It's the Thought police!

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Posted by Dane Simri (Member # 272) on :
 
The really scary thing is that there was a Voyager episode like this a few years back. The society developed a black market in violent, hateful thoughts.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
"Hate crimes" are crimes committed against a person because of who that person was and what group they belonged to, rather than a 'random' crime not directed at any type of person.

F'r instance, most muggers don't care what race you are, so that's not generally a hate crime. That guy who came into the synagogue in CA looking for Jews to kill because they were Jews, however, was committing one. So was that black guy in Pittsburgh who was shooting white people because they were white, although he's not too likely to be charged with a hate crime, since somehow, minorities are usually considered to be politically incapable of hate.

"hate" crimes are very often unprovable, however, and are just assumed in some cases. It gives the preachers, politicians and wannabe crusaders something to talk about.

No, if we locked up every person that showed hatred to another person in such a manner, at any time, we'd probably have to jail too many people whom it would be inconvenient to house. Like Farrakhan and Sharpton and Robertson (though It might be amusing to see them sharing a cell...)

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Posted by bryce (Member # 42) on :
 
No.

There should be no action taken unless it was a crime to start out, but there should not be any special punishment.

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :
 
Which crime is more senseless?

  1. A man rapes a woman because she's black.

  2. A man rapes a woman because she's there.

On the one hand, you have a hate-filled person who especially hates blacks. On the other, you have a hate-filled person who doesn't care who his victim is. Who harms his victim and society more, and which is the greater monster?

Unless the perpetrator is an emotionless sociopath, all crimes of violence are hate crimes.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Well, allow me to retort. People can kill in self-defence without necessarily hating their victims, only acting in self-preservation. Some cases of euthanasia can be violent (use of guns or blunt objects) but not hateful.

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