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Posted by MIB on :

I really don't think that putting up metal detectors; hireing armed guards; installing cameras in every nook and corner of the school; having drug sniffing dogs go through everybody's locker; inforcing mandatory uniforms; and inforcing this zero tolerance policy is working. If anything, all these things are reducing the effectiveness of our schools. Not to mention the fact the funding for these things could easily pay for silly things like building repair, field trips, and computers that have CPUs that run faster than 50 MHz. The big reason why many kids aren't that in love with school is because thier school SUCKS BALLS!

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

Well that certainly quantifies it in a nice package. I'd love to see a report on that.

"Schools today do worse because they 'Suck Balls'"

;-)

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

In the English department, apparently not.

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Posted by Coddman (Member # 10) on :

All your English class are belong to the void.

He has no chance for coherency, make his time!

Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

Aah, but if anything, it makes us aware of the danger that exists, no? Sure, all of these measures could be easily dealt with by an organized group wishing to create havoc within a school. The cameras could be destroyed, security bypassed, etc. But at least we have some inkling of the possibilities and are willing to try and prepare against them. Do you think fifty years ago this was even thought about? No. They were too busy hiding under their formica desks from imaginary nuclear warheads. And anyway, I heard that the rates of school violence are down by 30% from ten or twenty years ago. (Although this is hearsay.)

Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

The only thing that has increased over the years is sensationalism and media coverage.

Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

And weapon accessibility.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

Violence is often a release for some people, and that fight behind the school yard just could have prevented a kid from shooting people up five years later, if you let rage build up, well it all goes ka-boom!

For example, where I used to live(Macedonia) teachers did not prevent fights, but in the whole history of the country, no student was killed, shot, or even badly beaten. If you let the kids have their scrapes and bruises they won't decide to push it further.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

And weapon accessibility [has increased].

You got a source for that, Nimmie?

If you let the kids have their scrapes and bruises they won't decide to push it further.

Yeah, I've heard of similar things here. The school that two of my cousins attends allows you to get a note from your parents, and come box with whoever you want. 'Course, with gloves, in a ring, etc., but this apparently works quite well. Similar to the dueling thing someone suggested a while back.

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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :

But this "Zero tolerance" comes into effect. Trust me when I say that I would bringing in over a hundred notes from home to settle soem scores with a few kids.

All my school has is security cameras, passes to go even across the hall to get a drink and an actual scannable ID. However all this can go in big boom as anyone can bring in a bomb and put it in their locker and leave school grounds letting it explode. The cameras and ID ONLY give us a sense of protection. Those cameras are ONLY viewed at Teacher's REQUEST.

As one of my favorite teachers keeps saying" Never introduce logic, it screws up reality"

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

Well, my school has a few cameras in the main hallways, usually just to make sure students are in classes and not out wanderng the halls, I guess. I'm in New Brunswick, Canada, if that means anything to anyone.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

Our school has no cameras, our teachers don't care about a thing. I went in a washroom once, only to be nauseated by the smell of marihuana, because somebody closed the door and smoked it up for several hours in there. I saw legs in one of the stalls, and smoke was coming out the top of it. Now there are two things I could assume, his army chronograph caught on fire and it was emmitting these strange smells, or the guy was doing weed. Being the sensible person that I am I assumed the latter. This is my school in Canada, where I am currently residing.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Good to know that you're residing in the same country as your school. It's obvious that todays killings and poor grades are due to too many children commuting internationally. They are all tired by the time they arrive at the school, and they often find that everyone is speaking another language. It causes frustration, which leads to stress, which leads to the dark side.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

It's also good to know that some people still like to annoy others on the multiple interpretations of a sentence.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Liam is simply pointing out that it's a good thing that one lives in the same country as the school they attend.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

"Fatigue leads to frustration, frustration leads to stress, stress leads to sufferinnnnnng..."

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Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :

Liam's not wearing trousers.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Does he live in the same country as his trousers?

"These are my Trousers in England, where I am currently residing."

-Edward Gibbons, The Decline and Fall of The Roman Empire.

[This message has been edited by Ultra Magnus (edited April 04, 2001).]

Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :

We should hope so. Lest, Liam without his trousers is a very scary thing. I mean the glare off of them white legs is BLINDING.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

Oh, looky, there is more than one person that likes to do that.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

How do you know that I'm not wearing trousers?

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Ultra "The Man Train" Magnus posted his photo collection of you.

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

So that's why I was h4xx0r3d.

-Edward Gibbons, The Decline and Fall of The Roman Empire.

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Why would UM's photo collection cause my trousers to fall off? A collection of car carrier's = non-turning on of me.

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

They were recently Buffed. And waxed.

-Edward Gibbons, The Decline and Fall of The Roman Empire.

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

We're now 12 posts out-of-flameboard territory and counting. Normally, I wouldn't mind so much, but the stick up my ass needs readjustment, so I'm relieving stress by "tightening the ship" and taking a stand against non-flameboardyness. It's like removing the plastic logs from the fire to make it look healthier.

The best part is that hordes of people will descend upon this thread once I lock it, looking for incendiary comments about Omega's mother or anything to do with Tachy. Alas, that is the order of things.

I ask that you hold your commentary on Liam's trousers until the dedicated forum on the matter appears in Flare2. CC's breaking new ground with inline picture inclusion into the UBB and this one ought to be a doozy. Who'd have though PERL could do so much?

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