what does your comp's desktop look like? here is mine: here
[ July 08, 2002, 11:25: Message edited by: Edipissed Wrecks ]
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
It doesn't look like that...
I use to have a desktop pic up, but the server I hosted files, Cyrez, not to mention my website is down.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Geez, post the link, not the actual picture. 1. Everyone most likely has a monitor resolution set at least 640x480 or 800x600. There are some at 1024x768 like me. These are quite big pictures and will screw up the layout of the thread. 2. The image disk size can also be big depending on how much compression individuals use when using jpegs.
Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :
Robotech? Cool!!!
Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
people at the hardforum are able to handle these kind of threads, and they are a bunch of loser computer geeks. never again shall i try anything cool here.
and yes, Tahna Los, Robotech is cool .
[edit: btw, you can have pictures hosted at www.hostriot.com. it seems pretty permanent and works everywhere, unlive theforumisdown]
[ July 08, 2002, 11:24: Message edited by: Edipissed Wrecks ]
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Well, here's my desktop currently. I have a bunch of other desktop screenshots from a while ago showing my progression from Win98SE to XP
I have my taskbar set to autohide, so I brought it up for this cap to show the XP skin I'm currently using. Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
/me wonders why no one bothers with flareupload
Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
i'm scared of flareupload.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
It has been my practice to use my own webspace if possible rather than using flareupload. But, if you'd rather us use it...
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
Well, people complain about there being nowhere to upload files.....
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
[ July 09, 2002, 03:01: Message edited by: DeadCujo ]
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Someone please stop me before I end up hurting people...
Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
quote:I use the same Winamp skin as Edipissed Wrecks
its a great skin, IMNSHO.
Posted by Ed / BWC (Member # 818) on :
Posted by Thoughtchopper (Member # 480) on :
Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :
How does one get a screen capture of a desktop?
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
The print screen key, and then pasting in an image program.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Charles, I use the Flare Upload. Just one question, though: how come it won't let me upload .PNG files?
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I don't do a whole lot of messing around with my desktop. My desktop looks like this. It's been that way since January 1998. As I said, I don't mess with it.
A couple months ago, a friend and I were competing to see who was the most obsessed with Lexa Doig. I won, in part, by changing my desktop and ICQ and WinAmp skins to look like this.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Dat's Desktop Posted by Ed / BWC (Member # 818) on :
Mine actually looks like this. Posted by Ultra Magnus Pym (Member # 239) on :
And to ensure this post is content-rich and thus valuable in the new new economy, Sol's desktop, annotated edition:
My Computer: My computer. My Documents: My documents. Recycle Bin: A misleading metaphor for deletion. Games: This folder contains lots of those "Amusements for the Agoraphobic" collections Microsoft likes to put out. Klondike, Tetris, that game with the tiles and the matching, and so on. This folder may also contain a SNES emulator. Muzac: Cunningly disguised downloaded music! Full of purposefully ha ha songs. Not my favorite music folder ever. Sims: The Sims. Skittish: The album Skittish, by Mike Doughty. TMBG mp3: Right, ok, I'll get to the non-obvious ones. aesthetic: A very, very short paper on an album I like and why. bleah: Two pages of an as yet far from finished story about fast-talking detectives. d2-bncrk: NOT a Diablo II Battle.net crack. despair: A "journal comparison exercise" from a class called "Judaism, Christianity, Islam." Emperor: Battle for Dune: A game in which I battle for Dune. From time to time. ethic2: Why is this still here? Anyway, an unentertaining "case analysis" regarding the issue of torture. ethicpaper: An even less entertaining "compare and contrast" exercise. About abortion. Wee! evolution: This file contains three Flameboard threads about the aforementioned topic that I once thought I wanted to save, a tiny attempt at doing a very sad "post DS9" timeline, and notes on a novel I would like to write. Four notes, in fact, which I shall share because I hope one of you will write it for me and then give me the fame/money/author groupies:
quote: professional relationship breakers the continuity of consciousness problem people who don't believe in the universal nature of math/science immigration
film: A paper about what Aristotle thought about the meaning of art. film2: Something from film class. Don't remind me. How is Raise the Red Lantern a traditional Chinese film? That was an hour and forty minutes every two days that I'll never get back. The class, that is, not the film. film3: The same document as film, only with a "Works Cited" page attached. The hell? horrid: A paper entitled "Gnosticism and the Early Christian response to heresy." Intel Create & Share through Internet Test Call: annoying shortcuts installed by my webcam which I haven't removed due to laziness. New Text Document: I'm not even going to try to detail this one. Uh, it includes Enterprise ratings, song lyrics (mine and others), and yet more story ideas. nonfiction3: A lengthy and personally important essay I wrote. Oni: You can make her break backs and snap necks! operation: A very short play about the aftermath of a foggy medical procedure. prepatch.log: I don't know. Possibly a prepatch log. Of things which have since changed. Due to a patch. Red Alert 2: But not that tricky Yuri's Revenge. Shortcut to Diablo II: Not cracked. sizer: A paper on The Name of The Rose. sizer2: My attempt to define art. Wordy. Mentions Neanderthals. Not good. But I got an A, so ha ha ha, school! sizer3: Yet another brief assignment for my Aesthetics class. WinMX: I never did get this to work very well. The post-Napster world has left me cold. Dungeon Seige: Entertaining, but not really life-changing. I haven't tried the single player yet, for instance.
Uh, ok, this is far less fun than I thought it would be. Still, press on, eh? I guess?
Taskbar shortcuts, from the left: IE Show me the Desktop, Cruise! Quake III The Sims Age of Empires II StarCraft Star Trek: Armada Diablo Unreal Tournament Elite Force Elite Force multiplayer Rune Quicktime RealPlayer Fallout
I do not play all of these games regularly. For instance, Rune.
[ July 09, 2002, 00:29: Message edited by: Sol System ]
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
wow.. mine's a little scary now that i think about it.. it reflects the state of my mind, that is, well.. scary.
The desktop on my P150 has basically looked exactly like this for almost three years now.
Posted by Ed / BWC (Member # 818) on :
quote:Originally posted by Charles Capps: It allows .png files, not .PNG files. Case counts.
I don't know how to process a MIME type 'image/x-png' file. Ask for help. Thanks!
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Wont let me do it...
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Sol who is that drawing by? It looks Escher-esque. Did he draw skulls reflected in irises? I know he did the self-portrait with him holding the sphere.
Captain Mike - why so much stuff!?!
Who's was the Bender one - I like that But you have 1250Mb or RAM!?! I'm looking into getting a new 'puter is that what I should aim for or is 256 good enough?
You know you could really freak someone out (like at the library) by setting one of these desktop pictures as the windows back-ground picture! LOL!
Am I the only one still using Windows 95!?!
Oh, what a delightful message I got from Flare Upload
"I find it highly unlikely it took you more than ten minutes to select a file" - it's giving me lip!!
[ July 09, 2002, 08:23: Message edited by: AndrewR ]
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
ill tell you what any one thing is if you ask, but i didnt have time to go annotated.. i mean look at it for chrissake!
I never clean it.. actually, i desperately need a new hard drive and a reinstall of windows, which is growing buggy because of the limited space i give it to work in. i also have another 128 mb RAM in the mail.. i just need a day off where i can install it. my grandmother has pretty much ruled out the idea of me having more than three or four hours to myself without getting some bullshit lecture about the fact that i might finish school a semester earlier if i go get my oil changed today rather than waiting for my appointment next week, or that i need to visit my father instead of photoshopping paint effects onto old photographs of Star Trek cast members. obviously no grasp of reality there. i need to move.
for a brief time, the area around Blazblorg's feet was graced by a photo of Leanne.. or Jen.. or Asia.. i dont have a good picture of Michelle, and i still talk to Asia (and like Leanne for that matter, and am tempted by Jen [but not Jenn]) so ive decided that thats just a little to complicated.
and my hard drive is a lot fuller than the placard suggests.. thats a very old graphic.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
You'll also notice that I keep a very tidy desktop...
[ July 09, 2002, 10:00: Message edited by: MinutiaeMan ]
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
There's a good reason that image/x-png isn't allowed... that's not the real MIME type. The real MIME type is image/png. Whatever you've installed on your system that thinks /x-png is valid needs to get a refresher course...
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Wonderful. So everyone makes sure they have all their cool programs on show, with Winamp (never Windows Media Player, because that's just not cool) open and playing a totally happening track (as opposed to the Britney Spears that constitutes your normal listening fodder). Add a cool image that you'd never actually have on your desktop because you'd get bored with it, and voila. I bet not one single person here didn't make at least one cosmetic alteration before hitting the Print Screen key.
I might be putting mine up later just as soon as I remove the naked picture of my wife. And if you believe that I have a naked picture of my wife on my desktop, you'll believe anything.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
quote: I might be putting mine up later just as soon as I remove the naked picture of my wife.
Making a cosmetic alteration, hmm?
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
I put my mouse over my taskbar and hit the Print Screen button.
I was surprised that someone is using the same XP skin as I...! Nifty.
Another thing to all you XP users: How do you get the transparent menus and windows? I used to know how to do that, but I've since forgotten...
And I usually keep a pretty tidy desktop. I'm angry at myself for letting the icons go past one column... Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
I took a picture of my desktop, but since .JPG files appear to not really be JPEG files (god only knows what the hell Charles is talking about... ), I can't upload it. The only cosmetic change I did to it was opening Media Player (HA! DEATH TO WINAMP!) and playing a song. Unfortunatly, it tends to cover up my beautiful background image of the #9 Team ABT Red Bull-Sony Audi TT-R (1024x768) from the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters (DTM) series. I also would have keps all my usual icons on my desktop, including internet and e-mail programs, DVD programs, Morpheus, AIM, mIRC, PalTalk, NetMeeting, and my small handful of games. And you would have seen my normal Windows XP theme with the silver color choice.
Oh, and how do you like GTA3, Cartman?
[ July 09, 2002, 11:43: Message edited by: The359 ]
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
The only "cosmetic alteration" I made before hitting the print screen key was minimizing the browser window, so it wasn't covering everything up. I really do have Trillian (or, until a couple weeks ago, ICQ and AIM) always open on the right side, Winamp almost always open and playing at the top, and no icons on the desktop. And I've had the same image on my desktop ever since I created it, which, according to the last modified date on the file, was 15. Feb.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Contrary to Vogon Poet's commentary, I guarantee that my desktop does indeed look like the image that I posted. And, yes, I really was listening to classical music at the time. And, yes, I do listen to Britney Spears on ocassion.
Charles, I'm still having problems with uploading .png files. It keeps giving me the same "cannot process MIME image/x-png" error that BWC's getting. I've gone into file types and reset the MIME type, but it's still doing it. Got any suggestions?
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
The359: a lot Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I made absolutely no "cosmetic alterations" to my desktop before taking the screenshot, aside from hiding all of the windows. My desktop really IS naturally that clean.
Oh, and I never get bored with my background image, because it's automatically changed every time I start up. Ahhh, the wonders of Mac!
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
With several supernatural entities as my witness(es), I declare that that background image is the one I grabbed within a few months of arriving at college (after the thrill of being able to have real naked ladies on my very own computer screen!!! wore off) and has not changed, though I've thought about changing it. I use Winamp instead of Media Player because Media Player crashes EVERY TIME IT OPENS, which to me is nonoptimal. That particular computer is used mostly to play music these days, as I'm too lazy to hook up my stereo, and while I admit to purposefully selecting that particular song at the same time I went to make the image, I sincerely doubt anyone is going to be more or less impressed/wowed by anything on my playlist. If, however, you really want to know, I was listening to TMBG moments before.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Oh, and Andrew, that is a drawing by Escher (or so it claimed to be), good eye. Only I no longer remember what the name of it is.
Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
hey, i was really listening to Ute Lemper . Ute Lemper is one blonde who doesn't have to fake-ify her body or her music, unlike ms Spears. but ok, whatever. hey, look at this! Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
As said in one of my favorite webcomics: "Fox News gives me the hives."
quote:"Vegetarians don't live longer, they just look older," said South Dakota cattle rancher Jody Brown. "If animals weren't meant to be eaten, then why are they made out of meat?"
Someone stole my joke. I am ticked off now.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
Blazblorg, the Arcturian clone has really been on my desktop for a year. The only cosmetic alteration I made was to move some of the newer temporary .txt files from blocking the view of what it says on my reminder graphic (which i do change sometimes).. i grabbed the screen with all my internet resources open, which meant AOL signed on under my secret screen name, Flare, TrekBBS Art forum, Yahoo! mail, WBRU's message board, Trillian on my main SNs and AOL IM on under my tertiary secret screenname, plus LimeWire being open, for porn. I had Winamp on but minimized (I have a Mountain Dew skin, or sometimes Vintage Stereo or Movie Era LCARS).. and it was playing The Cardigans, but several Britney Spears covers popped up in the playlist today.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
.....only because Calculus II is incredibly boring...
Comments: In general, wow there are a lot of XP users here, which either means people like upgrading a lot...or many people have new computers. Ok, except for the OS X guy
Really like the Bender themed desktop, As for Siegfried...that be one scarey stalker desktop
Cosmetics: Well....I blurred out my ICQ list, and as for the wallpaper. I already have an automatic wallpaper rotating program that changes it on boot-up (and I didn't have to use a Mac)
[ July 09, 2002, 12:56: Message edited by: Mucus ]
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Hey, that Lexa Doig stalker desktop was only active for a day or two. Then I switched it right back to my boring blue textured desktop. Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Cool! I have most of those B5 tracks... Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Here, then, is my desktop. Unadulterated in any way. Make of it what you will.
Basically other than that wallpaper, and the my computer, recycle bin, and network neighborhood icons, that it. i'm to lazy to take a picture of my desktop.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Ah, a crotch rocket. Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by Topher: Ah, a crotch rocket.
Crotch rocket? That's pretty funny. I've never heard that before. I'm looking for a good job right now, I want to be able to afford that bike in at least three years, maybe find a used one for cheaper than the $7,999 suggested retail price.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
I don't have a shot of my desk top, but the picture I'm using right now is:
Yeah, that's what my dad and I call bikes like that. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Along w/ most other people...
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
My uncle is in a biker posse. I say posse instead of gang since this group is made up of married 30-somethings who all work for the same local roofing and general construction company. Watching them reminds me of the episode of The Dick Van Dyke show when Robert Petrie gets a cycle.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Hmm. Well, I've been reevaluating my desktop imagery of late. HAL9000 is one of the few that's survived, and it's been chosen as the wallpaper for the laptop I've just inherited. But it's obvious I need some more. So I need to know where Cartman and DeadCujo (the first one, not the Bender one) get their wallpaper, and any similar sites like that.
I've also been converted on the idea of skins. As you might have noticed, I've never bothered with them. But now. . . where are good places to get them?
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Skins for...? Winamp? Windows?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"My uncle is in a biker posse. I say posse instead of gang since this group is made up of married 30-somethings who all work for the same local roofing and general construction company."
Ah, the weekend warriors. There's a Harley-Davidson shop near here where one can observe the habits and rituals of this strange species...
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
A variety of Winamp skins are available from (Warning, crazy part): Nullsoft directly. It's like a synergy thing!
Since when have they been hosting "official skins," anyway? Like, the official Scooby Doo skin. Zuh?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Since when have there been "official skins"?
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Its a weird new development at Nullsoft, go figure. I think the lastest Winamp3 build comes with an "official" Mad Magazine skin. Bleh.
Anyways, a place where I like to get general wallpaper, skins, etc. is deviantArt
Its a bit slow, and uncomfortably massive....but it really does have wallpaper...and skins for practically any application.
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
I downloaded the Windows Media Player LCARS skins from the startrek.com website and was playing Aaliyah's More Than A Woman when I found the thread.
[ July 11, 2002, 01:18: Message edited by: Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge ]
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
That WMP skin is great. (Still laughing because I thought the video was part of the skin. You have to admit that it does kind of look like there's a deflector dish behind her)
Here's the other mac desktop you might see here for those who might be interested...
[ July 11, 2002, 01:39: Message edited by: Balaam Xumucane ]
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Winamp skins I meant. But you can get WMP skins too?! Gosh.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
And I highly recommend this one, for the Star Wars fans. From all the movies. http://battlepaper.starwarssource.net/ Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Yes, Media Player has skins. But only for XP. I highly recommend www.theskinsfactory.com for some of the best ones (I personally use one called Vario). You can also download from Microsoft a tool that allows you to use WinAmp skins on Media Player
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
I did notice that in her video before, but then again I see Star Trek everywhere...
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Since I was fiddling with it today, I decided to resurrect this thread to post my Windows XP Logon GUIs. I've currently downloaded 5, but I plan to download more since LogonLoader (required to change your XP Logon screen) can randomly run a Logon GUI everytime you go come to the screen. Anyway, here are the five:
(These aren't screenshots, by the way, they are just pictures from the site which I got them from)
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
You need to let a thread sit for a lot longer then four days for it be "resurrecting" ... Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Yes, you know all about the resurrecting of threads... Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Unless you're Christian. Then it only requires about a day-and-a-half before resurrection is okay (but you have to refer to it as "three days").
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
I got approached by some born again Christians lurking on Towson U. Oy. What was the point of getting out of class early, anyway?
Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
the power of chris (not a typo) commands this post to be resurrected. here is my current desktop is here. Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
quote:the power of chris commands this post to be resurected.
I commanded no such thing. Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
i'm sorry, i thought you did . oh well, i'm drinking scotch right now .
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Nope, I sure didn't. But, in the meantime, pass the Scotch. This I command!
Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
i'm drinking 18year Highland Park single malt, too! stuff cost me $65, but it's worth every cent. my arm isn't long enough to pass the scotch. maybe i can push it through the monitor......nope, didn't work.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Well if Chris didn't command it, and I didn't command it, and Shik didn't command it (or did he?), then which Chris was it? Reks?
Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
chris from the convenient store down the street.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
You are sitting there drinking 18 year old single malt Scotch while browsing some forums on Star Trek?
You lot really don't have the slightest idea how to "do" alcohol, do you?
Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
actually, i was drinking 18 year old single malt scotch, reading about star trek, and talking to this girl that i like. does that make it any better?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
No. And I've tried hard, but I'm completely failing to see the situation. If you are at school/work, then you shouldn't be drinking. I don't recall any libraries/internet cafes that serve single malt scotch. And if, by some amazing twist of fate, you have gotten her into your house, then you should know that very few girls find Star Trek forums and aphrodiziac.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Highland Park is OK, but I prefer the Islay malts - Lagavulin and Laphroaig in particular.
Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
the islays are good, but in my opinion, the brimstone is a little "bloomier" with the highland park, and there is a bit of licouice, which i like. maybe i'm just weird. when i drink islays, i generally drink Glenfarclas. it's easy to get in my area.
PsyLiam,it was like 2am eastern standard when i wrote that post, and it's summer, so i ain't at school or at an internet cafe. and who said she was at my place? alexander graham bell had this most amazing machine, perhaps you have read about it in the daily telegraph report, or seen it at the nickelodean. besides, this girl likes trek. but she has never seen any of the star wars movies. go figure.
Posted by CaptainMike: Director's Edition (Member # 709) on :
yes, very convenient.
there were christians on thayer street, clapping and chanting at all the drug dealers. i thought they were going to get the shit kicked out of them.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Note that I didn't make any last minute changes or cosmetic surgery. Also, I prefer my Windows Media Player to WinAmp any time.
Posted by BlueElectron (Member # 281) on :
Well, I loooooooove myself, so it is understandable for me to use my own image on my desktop....
Here it goes, be warned though, if you can't stand the sight of a top-naked male, don't check out this pic.
If you did check out the pic, please give me some helpful input about my physique
Notes... - Yes, I always use a black windows theme. Yes, that makes me odd. - Cosmetic alteration for homecomputer: I turned AIM on....Lord help me, I actually turned AIM on. - Cosmetic alteration for server: I hovered the mouse cursor over the connection status for ADSL. :P - the server's desktop is 640x480x16 and very basic, so I can VNC into it from work without trouble. *L* - Windows 2000 Professional on both comps
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Blue Electron, you look just like my next door neighbor from that perspective.
Posted by BlueElectron (Member # 281) on :
.....Is that a good thing?
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
How do you get AIM to dim like that?
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Yeah, he's a nice guy. Pleasant and all that, although I do wonder about his driving skills considering all of the dents in his car.
Posted by Coddman (Member # 10) on :
The359 - Grab a copy of AIM+ ... It makes AIM bearable by getting rid of the ads and fluff, letting you make the window transparent, etc.
*goes to look up the download URL*
....*discovers a spyware warning page* THEFUCK?!?
.......err. Maybe you'd better not. *L*
In case you really like that transparent AIM window, though...
Spyware warning & removal instructions: here Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Y'know, Cody, I thought it was bad that you were on my ICQ list five times. But now I see that you're on your own ICQ list no less than three times!
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
- This is the real thing. Not doctored or cleaned up in any way. - Someone mentioned Lexa Doig. I never heard of hear. I googled for her. And that's the story behind that IE window. - In Windows XP, I rarely use the Start Menu anymore. The top 8 most used programs are (apparently) PSP7, Notepad, HomeSite 5 (html-editor), CorelDRAW, ACDSee, PCTV Vision (to watch TV with my TV-card ), GTA3 (addictive) and CuteFTP (uploading silly pictures like this).
Hey Cartman, how did you put all those active elements on your desktop? Where do you get them and how do you put them up?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Edipissed Wrecks:
PsyLiam,it was like 2am eastern standard when i wrote that post, and it's summer, so i ain't at school or at an internet cafe. and who said she was at my place? alexander graham bell had this most amazing machine, perhaps you have read about it in the daily telegraph report, or seen it at the nickelodean. besides, this girl likes trek. but she has never seen any of the star wars movies. go figure.
It's still a criminal waste of good Scotch to drink it by yourself, even if you are on the phone to some mentalist whose never seen a Star Wars film.
*looks at profile*
And if you are indeed 21, you seem to have discovered the secret of eternal youth. Conratulations!
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Harry: it's a combination of ActiveX, HTML, and a custom PHP script Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
MinutiaeMan: Where'd you get that pic of the Enterprise-A anyway?
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I really don't know.
Were I to make a guess, I probably found it showcased at a site like 3D Gladiators or something. I've got a collection of about 30 desktop-sized images like that of various Trek starship shots. (And a few other series, like B5.)
If you're interested, e-mail me and I'll send you the original.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
And I thought my start menu was big... Holy shit, Harry!
quote:And if you are indeed 21, you seem to have discovered the secret of eternal youth. Conratulations!
i don't get it. and conratulations to you too!
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I was commenting on the fact that you look 12. Not that there's anything wrong with that, obviously. Especially if you are 11. Then you can laugh at your friends! Ha!
MM: [email protected]. Isn't that easier?
Posted by Edipissed Wrecks (Member # 510) on :
oh, that photo was from a few years ago, and really doesn't show much detail. heh. i certainly don't look like i'm 12 in real life.
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Is it me or am I the only one who prefers to have an uncluttered desktop? Too many desktop icons would drive me nuts...
Posted by Just Harry (Member # 265) on :
I have a 17" monitor at 1152*whatever that other number was. It isn't that cluttered.
[ July 24, 2002, 10:29: Message edited by: Just Harry ]
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Michael: Did you see my desktop? I have no icons. I even got rid of the My Computer, Recycle Bin, and Network Neighborhood (erm... or whatever they're calling it in the later versions) icons.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Slightly facist of you isn't it Tim?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Damn those faces! We must kill them all!
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
They're staring at us, all those souless evil smiling mocking faces. No where I go, how I turn, no matter what I do, they're still there...moving, taunting, tormenting. Must kill them all....all of them. All of them must die.
Uh, what a sec, are we talking about smilies or faces that aren't actually on icons on your desktop?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Hell if I know. Liam's the one who called me facist. I was just playing along.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Whatever tickles your onions.
Posted by Red Ultra CaptainMike Pym (Member # 709) on :
*pictures you grimly marching the Network Neighborhood and My Computer and all those other helpless .lnk files into the gas chamber.* Its bad enough we make them wear that little arrow badge, now we exterminate them completely?
you iconoclastic fascist.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
If you look at my desktop, you'll notice I don't make my little icons wear their little "arrow badges".
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Oh, look at me! I have TweakUI! I am the sexiest mother EVER!
Posted by Red Magnus Pymster (Member # 239) on :
Ouch.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
But I do have TweakUI. And I am the sexiest mother ever.
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
Yummy new sig material!
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Oy.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I was talking to DAT. Not you, sexy Tim.
Posted by Just Harry (Member # 265) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dat: If you look at my desktop, you'll notice I don't make my little icons wear their little "arrow badges".
But I like to see which icons are shortcuts and which are the real programs. AM I NOT SEXY?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
NO! You are THUPER AND HAVE KENNY'S HAIR!
Yes!
Posted by Prismatic EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
i have a new desktop here. Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
Har!
Also, why is this thread still alive?
Posted by Prismatic EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
why are you still alive? i think you'll find the answer to be the same to both questions: it's not worth the bother to kill it.
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
Right-O!
Posted by Prismatic EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
you bet.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Fat Tim should put a stop to this RIGHT NOW!
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
*has another drink*
Posted by Prismatic EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Fat Tim should put a stop to this RIGHT NOW!
heh
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Okay, I need some assistance. I noticed that some of the XP users on here use Style XP (or some other XP skinning method). Style XP decided to stop working on me, and I really don't like the options that are left to me (Luna blue or silver, and Windows Classic). So, if someone could advise me on how to get Style XP working again, or an alternate program that will let me apply the visual styles I have, it would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Try something like WindowBlinds.
Posted by Prismatic EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
windowblinds works pretty well. i'm just too lazy to use it, anymore.
Posted by Nim Pim Pim (Member # 205) on :
"WindowBlinds"
And tobacco kills!
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Actually I found a patch from the TGT Soft webpage that lets you use different visual styles without the Style XP program. It's a real, free patch from their webpage. The thing is, they include instructions with it that are really confusing, to discourage people from using it. Posted by MaGiC (Member # 59) on :
Well I'd just feel bad if I left a poor wounded thread down there to die.... one too many Sunday School readings of The Good Samaritan combined with the information age and a beer at lunchtime...So..
I'm sensing a theme here, MaGiC...I dunno why? Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
I feel sorry for Tucker. He's right next to a folder labeled "Floppy."
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
He's also got his face plastered all over the trash can...hmmm
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
"Recycle bin".
I'm going to go for any anti-American phrases I can get.
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
I actually tried Windowblinds and it crashed XP Pro, so I just did the following to my desktop... Corridor Blue Honshu Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
Ms. Minogue looks much more Donkey-like in those pictures than she does normally. Which is to say, she is Donkey-Like +10.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Microsoft Money!? Sounds very scary.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
I've been going through new wallpapers for my computer, and here's one I've absolutely fallen in love with:
Go to C:\windows\system32\dllcache (to reach this folder you'll probably have to type out the address in the windows explorer location bar).
Locate "uxtheme.dll" in this folder and rename it "uxtheme.bak".
In C:\windows\system32, also rename "uxtheme.dll" to "uxtheme.bak". Right next to it should be "uxtheme.pat", the file which was created by the .exe you ran a minute ago.
Rename the .pat to "uxtheme.dll", answer "cancel" then "yes" to any warnings from Windows and reboot.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
So that's who the scary lady on Michael's desktop is...
Posted by Captain... Mike (Member # 709) on :
there's a scary man on my desktop
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
That's just your reflection.
Posted by Captain... Mike (Member # 709) on :
I've never trusted my reflection.. and i never will.. i can never forgive it.. for the death of my boy
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
TSN, it was either taking a screencap with Kylie Minogue playing or ST2: TWOK. Frankly, I can't ever get a good screencap of Khan with his big plastic chest.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I always thought that Montalbahn claimed that was his real chest? It scares me either way.
I'd post my desktop, but I've just recently (ie, last night) installed Windows XP, and so I'm likely to spend the rest of the week cowering in fear of my computer. Everything is just so...rounded...
Seems to load quicker though. Although that could be due to the new 7600 rpm 80 gig hard drive I threw in. And I would have gotten away with it, if it hadn't been for you meddling kids and your pesky out of date BIOS that couldn't handle 80gig hard drives! Grr.
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
You're afraid of curves? Explains a lot.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Oh, very droll.
No, I like the curves, and the chunkiness of it all (quiet you). But things are in different places! I've already switched to the classic Start menu, but I don't want to put everything back to it's Win 98 form. It would just make the whole thing a bit...redundent.
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
No, it wouldn't. There's more to an OS than the way it looks. You didn't buy Windows 98 so you could restart in DOS mode, now did you?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Er, no. Although your example is backwards. I'm NOT putting it into classic windows mode, so comparing it to running DOS in Win 98 is wrong, because I'm not doing the comparitive.
And yeah, I know it's a lot different. NT core, more stable, better support for monkeys, newness, blah blah blah. Which is all nice, but I want it to LOOK different too. I want people to see my desktop and phEAr mE!!!!
Best effect: Fading to grey when you change themes/log off
Second best effect: Drop shadow on mouse pointer. Should have done it years ago.
Sucks that you can't change the size of the quick launch bar though. Or am I missing something? Or is there a better way to, er, launch stuff? Quickly?
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Liam: Right click task bar, select "Lock Task Bar". It probably has a check mark beside it.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Cheers!
I'm still twice as good as you though. Nyah.
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
quote:I want people to see my desktop and phEAr mE!!!!
Find yourself a copy of Unix. It'll do wonders for your l33tn3ss.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Which is all nice, but I want it to LOOK different too. I want people to see my desktop and phEAr mE!!!!
Which is why you should probably switch over to Mac OS X! Fear the power of Aqua and Quartz! Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Well, I want people to pH�@r m�!!!!, but I also want something vaguely useful.
(And this post happily answers both the above.)
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Bound to strike ph34r into the hearts of many.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
"Vaguely useful." Oh, that's very amusing. Really.
Spoken like someone who really doesn't know much about OS X in the first place.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
It's like nerd masturbatory heaven.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Hmm. That was meant to be a reply to Cartman's comment, but fate has given it a much more important role.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I also fail to be impressed by a vaguely pretty backdrop and a whole mess of icons at the bottom of the screen.
Oh, and the amazing shock difference of having icons on the RIGHT! Not the LEFT! Wow.
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Well how about icons in the middle of the desktop? Would that tickle your fancy lass?
Posted by Prismatic EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: "Vaguely useful." Oh, that's very amusing. Really.
Spoken like someone who really doesn't know much about OS X in the first place.
i know a lot about OS X, and i don't find it to be terribly useful (mostly because the hardware that runs it is woefully underpowered for my uses and is freaking expensive).
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
that would leave the apple fanatics very confused: "but Steve' 'our God' Jobs said that megahertz didn't matter! that the G4 is....that the..... the.....the....waaaaaaaaa i want mommy!" Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
That's nothing but an old rumor at this point, Cartman. I've been hearing things like that for almost a year. It's certainly possible, and I wouldn't be that upset -- because the Apples certainly wouldn't be running on the piece-of-shit Pentiums.
And as for the "fact" that megahertz really does matter...
quote:Intel falls into MHz trap It seems that Intel is getting a taste of its own medicine with new low-power chips the company has been developing in Israel. While the chips perform more work per cycle, they are plagued by significantly lower clock speeds than the Pentium 4, presenting a marketing hurdle. ZDNN reports the new chip, code-named Banias, will ship in the first quarter of 2003 at 1.4GHz, 1.5GHz and 1.6GHz. More.
Windows geeks, eat your hearts out! Your penises are not as big as you think. (I say this with the understanding that 95% of people don't care about getting the "most powerful" machine, of course... )
Posted by Prismatic Faye Valentine Fanboy (Member # 510) on :
old news. who cares, it ain't gonna come out. your point doesn't even count, since it's a windows processor. and it's the same argument that AMD fans use, so it doesn't matter. as far as comparing apples and pc's, look at these this and this. wow, those g4's sure so fly in adobe content creation, the only thing Apple even claims as a performance "win" anymore. as the articles post, megahertz might not matter, but gigahertz do. can't wait until hyperthreading at the end of the year. 18% average increase in programs that aren't even programmed to take advantage of it. Prescott is going to rock.
[edit: damn, that first link doesn't work. you'll have to search through the features and find "mac vs. pc, round 1", if you care enough to go through the effort.]
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Prismatic Faye Valentine Fanboy: as the articles post, megahertz might not matter, but gigahertz do. can't wait until hyperthreading at the end of the year. 18% average increase in programs that aren't even programmed to take advantage of it. Prescott is going to rock.
Please, for the love of god, go out bowling or something. Anything. For me.
Posted by Prismatic Faye Valentine Fanboy (Member # 510) on :
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:Originally posted by Prismatic Faye Valentine Fanboy: can't wait until hyperthreading at the end of the year. 18% average increase in programs that aren't even programmed to take advantage of it. Prescott is going to rock.
Wow, a computer chip that can enlarge penises too! Man, that's got to be really something!
I don't care about the most gigahertz or the ultra-fastest processor. Yeah, it's an additional bonus, but if I really cared about things like that, I would've bought a G4 TiBook instead of the G3 iBook.
But I don't care about that -- I care more about the established user-friendly features the at least halfway intelligent system layout. There ain't no "blue screen of death" or "system has performed illegal operation and will be shut down" on the Macintosh.
If you prefer to argue that you like Windows because it's faster and bigger, that's fine. That's your choice. Me, I'm more discerning as far as the quality of the programming goes.
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
It's not the speed that matters, it's how we use it and how well it can handle what we thrust in and out everyday.
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
No MM, you're wrong. Your operating system of choice is wrong. It shouldn't even exist. There shouldn't even have to be a choice. There is only one that can be the best. You might as well just throw that junker iBook away and get yourself a real computer. Those very few who are using that stupid lame system are morons and idiots for doing so. Look at how their stuff is different. What a bunch of idiots. They are deluding themselves into thinking that they enjoying those pathetic and slower machines. What fools. I have numbers and charts and figures which illustrate just how obsolete and useless that operating system is. There really isn't any point in debating. The operating system I use is obviously vastly superior so there is no point in arguing now is there. So stop trying to tell me that your operating system is the best because clearly you are wrong and I am right.
Bernd is a very wise man.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:
quote:Originally posted by Prismatic Faye Valentine Fanboy: can't wait until hyperthreading at the end of the year. 18% average increase in programs that aren't even programmed to take advantage of it. Prescott is going to rock.
Wow, a computer chip that can enlarge penises too! Man, that's got to be really something!
I don't care about the most gigahertz or the ultra-fastest processor. Yeah, it's an additional bonus, but if I really cared about things like that, I would've bought a G4 TiBook instead of the G3 iBook.
But I don't care about that -- I care more about the established user-friendly features the at least halfway intelligent system layout. There ain't no "blue screen of death" or "system has performed illegal operation and will be shut down" on the Macintosh.
If you prefer to argue that you like Windows because it's faster and bigger, that's fine. That's your choice. Me, I'm more discerning as far as the quality of the programming goes.
funniest thing i've read in a while! os 10 crashes all the time. i get kernel panic 2 or three times a week with my mac at work. the systems are slow, and expensive. i've yet to get a bluescreen of death with either windows 2000 or XP, but i've gotten whitescreens of death with os 10 plenty of times. it's a pretty poor OS in the current implimentation. hell, the systems can't even run the damn thing properly. btw, sure is nice of the white screen to tell you how to turn off the computer. Apple sure has a lot of confidence in it's user base. you need to go use some real computers. i've been using PC's, Apples, and sun systems for years. in my experience with all 3, i can only have on conclusion: Macs suck. they are super expensive, they are friggin slow, and they don't have a particuraly large library of software. about the only reason there is to buy a Mac is for final cut pro. stop living in the past.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
oh Balaam Xumucane, you poor martyr. arguments are fine when both sides have facts to back themselves up with. people like you just bemoan the world and talk about how everyone is against them and how their decision is based not on facts, but on pure aesthetics, therefore there is no need to have an argument based on the truth. do you sometimes find yourself proclaiming "software?! i don't run software! i run Mac!". that has been shouted in my face before. Mac people are usually the loudest people. usually too loud to allow anyone else to talk. there is a reason for that. i loved Apples 7 years ago. too bad the current ones are basically the same damn machines, with 1995 prices and everything.
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
In your opinion. So, who's shouting the loudest here?
Do you understand the inherent dangers of intolerant thinking? Do you realize that certain tones of your comments make you sound like a fundementalist? It's a big sand-box; can't we all play nice?
RE: Martyr. Well, I don't just think everyone is against me. I happen to know that they are. I enjoy the experience of using my mac more than the experience of using my PC. That is truth. I can't definitively state which is 'better'. You have a mountain of numbers to support that the Intel Pentium 4 will process more information a second than two Motorola G4s. That sucks because I still like using my Mac better. I wish it were faster.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
i'm not intolerant, i simply demand facts in an argument. i used to use Apples (the first system i ever used was a IIE, and i preferred Apples until i got "techie" about 1995) i'm sorry that your mac isn't faster. maybe you'll get lucky and the ibm 64 bit processor mentioned here might be the "G5". the power4 is a kick ass processor (though i think that the next iteration ot Itanium will be better), and i'm sure any derivative will be great.
my biggest problem with apple people is that statements are made about how great os x is, or how great apple's are graphics, blah blah blah, but no facts are ever used. os x is as flawed as any other modern operating system (though it is a good OS. i think that for the "average" user, it is a lot better thought out than XP, and doesn't have any silly microsoft shit to deal with), and macs aren't as fast as the competition anymore. i'm glad you are happy using your Mac. i'm certainly happy with my PC's. lets just call a truce. i'm a part time salesman at a university computer shop (along with having to do stuff i don't get paid enough for like graphics, etc) and i have to argue mac vs. pc all the time (usually with the same people over and over who come up to me, yell and scream, and never give any facts to support their positions. those articles i linked shut them up, though ). i don't really like doing it at places that i come to for relaxation (like this message board). have a good evening.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
i resent being called a fundamentalist, by the way. how many fundamentalists (of any kind) try out all sides and then welcome factually based arguments? if you have a supported position, then bring it out. i'm not a "mac hater". if Apple brought out a platform that was as fast as current pc's, could be built by a DIY'er end user, wasn't overpriced, and had an extensive software library filled with stuff that i use, i would certainly think seriously about going back to the Apple platform. i don't think any of those things are going to happen soon. and the "can't we all play nice" is the same response i hear from adobe fanatics who irrationally hate superior macromedia products but have no reasons, and from chevy/ford people who irrationally hate foreign cars for no reason when i give them actual facts. are you one of these people? oh well, whatcha gonna do.
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
I wonder, if, ever, somewhere down the line, anything like this will ever feature in a philosophy or debate or swimming class in a school somewhere. It's like the geek version of Creationism vs. Evolution, and less rednecky than Guns vs. Less Guns.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
you should say "fewer guns", not "less guns".
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
Oh my.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
lions and bears?
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:os 10 crashes all the time. i get kernel panic 2 or three times a week with my mac at work. the systems are slow, and expensive. i've yet to get a bluescreen of death with either windows 2000 or XP, but i've gotten whitescreens of death with os 10 plenty of times.
Well, then obviously your system administrator doesn't know much about how to use Macs. Any system requires maintenance. There's the possibility of conflicting kernel extensions and so on. Are you just accepting the crashes, moving on, and then yelling "Macs suck!" I've been using OS X for eight months now, and I have had a total of TWO kernel panics.
Now, I can't argue too much against your experience with Windows, Mac, and Sun systems. If that's your preference, that's fine. But don't start yelling that "Macs suck" just because you don't like them or operate them properly.
Question: which version of OS X do you use? If it's 10.0, then that's part of the problem in the first place. OS 10.0 was basically a beta, even though they took the "Public Beta" name off the box. The entire OS has literally been built from the ground up, and although the core UNIX system is certainly stable, there's still some kinks to work out. And they will be -- most of them already have. I'm running 10.1.5 and haven't had a panic in three months. And I'm expecting to receive 10.2 by the end of the month.
Edipis, you keep complaining that Macs are "overpriced." That's bullshit. Cheap pricing is certainly why Honda and Ford sell so many relatively inexpensive cars... or you can buy a Mercedes or BMW. Or a slightly more balanced example: you can buy a Ford, or a Lincoln.
You can argue that Wintel PCs are superior till you're blue in the face. I've seen plenty of arguments that support both sides. Therefore, any arguments you try to link to will have no effect on me. I have had experience with Macs, and I've worked with Windows. I've even done a little with some pure-UNIX machines. And I know from what I've seen that Macs are like a fine artisan's tool -- in the proper hands, and with the proper handling, they work wonderfully.
Good luck plugging away at your Windoze machine. If that makes you happy, fine. I try to tell you of my experiences, and you retort with arguments that "Macs suck" and other crap. You argue that Windows chips have the best mega/gigahertz, as if that's all that matters, as if the gHz were the be-all-and-end-all. I try to point out that the clock speed isn't a totally accurate measurement of the processor.
Oh, well.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
quote: The fact is that the world is divided between users of the Macintosh computer and users of MS-DOS compatible computers. I am firmly of the opinion that the Macintosh is Catholic and that DOS is Protestant. Indeed, the Macintosh is counter-reformist and has been influenced by the 'ratio studiorum' of the Jesuits. It is cheerful, friendly, conciliatory, it tells the faithful how they must proceed step by step to reach--if not the Kingdom of Heaven--the moment in which their document is printed. It is catechistic: the essence of revelation is dealt with via simple formulae and sumptuous icons. Everyone has a right to salvation.
"DOS is Protestant, or even Calvinistic. It allows free interpretation of scripture, demands difficult personal decisions, imposes a subtle hermeneutics upon the user, and takes for granted the idea that not all can reach salvation. To make the system work you need to interpret the program yourself: a long way from the baroque community of revellers, the user is closed within the loneliness of his own inner torment.
"You may object that, with the passage to Windows, the DOS universe has come to resemble more closely the counter-reformist tolerance of the Macintosh. It's true: Windows represents an Anglican-style schism, big ceremonies in the cathedral, but there is always the possibility of a return to DOS to change things in accordance with bizarre decisions; when it comes down to it, you can decide to allow women and gays to be ministers if you want to.
Umberto Eco
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
And if I may be permitted:
quote: Imagine a crossroads where four competing auto dealerships are situated. One of them (Microsoft) is much, much bigger than the others. It started out years ago selling three-speed bicycles (MS-DOS); these were not perfect, but they worked, and when they broke you could easily fix them.
There was a competing bicycle dealership next door (Apple) that one day began selling motorized vehicles--expensive but attractively styled cars with their innards hermetically sealed, so that how they worked was something of a mystery.
The big dealership responded by rushing a moped upgrade kit (the original Windows) onto the market. This was a Rube Goldberg contraption that, when bolted onto a three-speed bicycle, enabled it to keep up, just barely, with Apple-cars. The users had to wear goggles and were always picking bugs out of their teeth while Apple owners sped along in hermetically sealed comfort, sneering out the windows. But the Micro-mopeds were cheap, and easy to fix compared with the Apple-cars, and their market share waxed.
Eventually the big dealership came out with a full-fledged car: a colossal station wagon (Windows 95). It had all the aesthetic appeal of a Soviet worker housing block, it leaked oil and blew gaskets, and it was an enormous success. A little later, they also came out with a hulking off-road vehicle intended for industrial users (Windows NT) which was no more beautiful than the station wagon, and only a little more reliable.
Neal Stephenson
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
one, macs are slow. did you read the articles i linked? obviously not. a 2.53 gigahertz P4 system was up to 40% faster than a dual gHz g4 system. the pentium4 was designed to clock high, that's why it has a long pipeline design. clockspeed is a totally accurate description of a processor if you are talking about the clockspeed of a processor. the g4 has a short pipeline, thus it performs more operations per clockcycle than a pentium4. obviously, this design hasn't worked out in the end, since a single top of the line p4 is up to 40% faster than a dual top of the line g4 system. the proper way to judge a cpu is total performance and then performance per dollar. the pentium4 obviously wins in both. it also happens to run at high clock speeds. i'm sorry you aren't knowledgable enough to see past that.
apples are certainly not the "mercedes" of computers. what are you paying for? you don't even get a 2 button mouse. nice features. out of date ram, expensive video cards, bad keyboards. you don't even get a decent speaker system. real fucking nice. go configure a pc at dell and a mac. look at the total prices and the features. you will see that the dell offers better stuff for less. keep in mind that in most applications, the dell system is going to be a lot faster. i'm running an advance copy of 10.2, and it has been pretty decent. 10.1 sucked, as did 10.0. it has taken apple a long time to bring out a halfway decent version of this operating system. it still doesn't run well on a top of the line apple system though, which speaks volumes about the apple platform. ms also took a long time for the 9x systems to become half way decnet (they never became decent), but the NT platform hasn't had anywhere near as many problems as os x has.
quote: I try to tell you of my experiences, and you retort with arguments that "Macs suck" and other crap.
you're a jackass. i did indeed say macs suck, and i firmly believe that they do in their current incarnation. i also gave my reasons for saying that. did you forget to read all of those? you people have very selective reading habits and memory. you say i gave you crap. are benchmarks crap? are price to performance ratios crap? how long have you been using apples? i've been using them for a long freaking time. i have a lot of experience with them. the current versions are, compared to the current competition, a lot worse than the apples of 1993 were to the then current competition. if my experiences counts as crap to you, then your's is a lot worse, considering that you haven't written anything worthwhile. if you don't type anything worth reading, them i'm not even going to respond.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
we've all read that, Sol System (it's a great book, by the way), but that is way out of date now. using win95 and macs from 4 years ago is in no way comparable to the current situation. and please don't quote anything that talks about dos. dos hasn't been the basis of anything since win2k. i don't even think my current system is dos compatible. Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Dude, you're getting a lifetime of repressed anger metamorphosized by pressures of brand identification and erupting in geek form!
Steve told me this thread would work better here.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
read what i said. there is no brand identification for me. whatever is faster and cheaper and better quantitatively is what i use. i have used macs, and i may use macs in the future. i'm just sick of irrational mac support that is being based on nothing. and i'm sick of being badmouthed by those same people for holding equally strong opinions, even though my opinions are backed by fact and experience.
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Ok, I'm going to say why I am a Windows user since people here are screaming about processor speeds: computer games. Windows based PC's have larger game selections than Mac. I'm an avid computer gamer, which is why I just bought the Area 51-m, and I want the lastest games on my lap ASAP. From what I notice, the games first come out in Windows, then a few months later on Mac. Some games like Warcraft 3 are a hybrid but then again I don't really see that occur often. I was just at the Apple store near me and noticed that the Mac version of The Sims: Hot Date expansion pack just came out while Windows has Vacation and soon Unleashed. For me, I'm staying on Windows... besides, someone has to pay for Bill Gate's singing lessons.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Edipis, you keep complaining that Macs are 'overpriced.' That's bullshit. Cheap pricing is certainly why Honda and Ford sell so many relatively inexpensive cars... or you can buy a Mercedes or BMW."
So, what you're saying is that Macs aren't overpriced, but you're comparing them to overpriced cars?
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
That could work... if Macs were the computer equivalent of said (top-notch) German automobile manufacturers in terms of quality, performance, reliability, comfort, and service. Which they aren't by a long shot.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote: dos hasn't been the basis of anything since win2k. i don't even think my current system is dos compatible.
Which is all well and good. It is. It's super for you and people running 2000 and XP. But just how many people do you think are?
You're saying that PCs are better than Macs and vice-versa based on brand new operating systems and 9 gig processors. It might shock you, but the majority are still moving along with Windows 98 and sub 1 gig CPUs. You're comparing new iterations of chips that 99% of people don't even own. That's not a fair assessment of two computing platforms. Compare what people have, now.
quote: you should say "fewer guns", not "less guns".
If you do that again, I will kill you.
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
MacOS 10.x and Win 2K have been around for nearly two years. I wouldn't call either of them "brand new".
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
First off, there is no such thing as "overpriced." I've studied some microeconomics, and it my professor frequently pointed out that for any given market price, a certain amount of consumers are going to be willing to purchase the product. And if a consumer is willing to pay the price, then how can they complain that it costs too much? Of course anyone would love to have a lower price and keep more of their money, but if they decide to pay, then there's no excuse.
Edipis, if you think Macs are overpriced, fine. I don't give a damn. I also didn't read a single word of your ultra-long rant that was probably nothing but regurgitated arguments about why Windows machines are so much faster. I don't buy it. For some reason, you've made it your mission in this thread to prove once and for all that your own computer purchase was justified, and that you've got the kewlest machine. Like I said, I don't care.
I'm happy with my machine, and so are millions of other computer users. If you have certain reasons for preferring Windows, that's fine. But don't try to trash my computer preference in the process of supporting yours.
I will not be responding to another one of your messages, Edipis.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: There was a competing bicycle dealership next door (Apple) that one day began selling motorized vehicles--expensive but attractively styled cars with their innards hermetically sealed, so that how they worked was something of a mystery.
That may have been true before, Sol. But there are several points that make that a false statement now:
Mac OS X now is based on a UNIX core -- an open source system. Moreover, there are plenty of software developer kits (SDK) that allow all sorts of new programs to be created. Take a look at a site like VersionTracker which lists all sorts of applications and additions that are available for the system. And remember that this system is only about two years old. And yet there are all sorts of programs cropping up, even those that are programmed in the "Cocoa" environment, using the OS X language "Objective-C."
Microsoft has tenaciously held on to all sorts of software code -- the *ahem* proprietary software. That's made it all the more difficult for developers to produce some kinds of programs that need to perform specialized functions... because Windows is ALSO "hermetically sealed" and frowns on access. Nobody has a clue how Internet Explorer works, or how Office works, or other programs. Nobody except hackers, that is. And so there are a lot more security problems.
I can't provide a link at the moment, but I read an article which stated that Windows machines account for something like 20% of the internet servers, but report 60% of the security breaches. I'm not going to get into the open source argument here, though. That's a whole different animal. Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
os x is not based on unix. that is a commonly held misconception. it is based on freeBSD. MinutiaeMan, you have been brainwashed. if you can't see the faults of apples, then you aren't using any of your higher brain functions. maybe you should read my "rant". it is filled with facts. something you don't have. also, if you truly didn't care about other people's computers, then you wouldn't have made this statement.
quote:That's nothing but an old rumor at this point, Cartman. I've been hearing things like that for almost a year. It's certainly possible, and I wouldn't be that upset -- because the Apples certainly wouldn't be running on the piece-of- shit Pentiums.
And as for the "fact" that megahertz really does matter...
...Windows geeks, eat your hearts out! Your penises are not as big as you think. (I say this with the understanding that 95% of people don't care about getting the "most powerful" machine, of course... )
you're an uninformed hypocrite. the fact that you don't even bother reading what other people write before you respond shows your true colors. i need no justification for my purchases, as i have that internalized. you simply need to grow a brain before you make stupid statements. the fact that you lash out at my character, as opposed to my words, probably shows that you are uncomfortable with your own lack of factual argument and that you are uncomfortable with your own choices. stick to facts, not your own manufactured bullshit.
PsyLiam, i already killed you, so you can't kill me. you just don't know it yet .
PsyLiam you say my argument isn't fair. well, you are full of shit. i don't care what joe fuckwit has in his basement. i compare the high end of both computing platforms. how is that not fair? apple is touting their machines as being superior, when they are not in the vase majority of cases. also, almost all new PC's are being bundled with winXp, and all macs are being bundled with OS X. i don't understand how you say this isn't a valid comparison when i am comparing the 2 most common operating systems among currently sold computers. when you compare car brands, you don't do it by comparing previous car models. why should i do that with computers?
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
I'm about this: >< close to switching to Mac. If only for this thread. Like how people choose Aetheism only because they're sick of the preachy fundies.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
i chose atheism because i don't believe in a god. and i'm assuming that i'm the one being compared to a fundamentalist, right? despite the fact that i'm the one who supports my facts, has tried the other platform, is knowledgable about both sides and welcomes intelligent informed arguments. i'm being called the fundamentalist despite the fact that the other person attacks my character, calls my opinion worthless, and backs up none of his claims with anything resembling fact. in fact, that other person just ignores my posts because he automatically decides that what i'm saying is meaningless simply for the fact that it differs from his opinion. yet i'm the fudamentalist, right? am i right about that? because if i am, then you people need to get your heads out of your asses.
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
The amusing thing here is that you've somehow convinced yourself that people are indeed reading what you've written, or at least care about what you have. If I had been a passenger on the Hindenberg, and had my limbs burnt off, I could still count the number of people you've managed to convince that your views are superior, and will jump from the Apple Base to the PC Base, on my one non-existant hand. Just like the Omega/First of Two/JeffreyB debates in the Flameboard in the days of yesteryear, nothing has been changed, nothing settled. Perhaps this is due to the throwing up of the "Dont' go there girlfriend" hand, the whole "I don't give a fuck what you say, I'm right" stance. You may have "Facts" and "Experience" but you sure as hell make it difficult to want to listen to you. If you don't listen to others, why should they listen to you? I'm not exactly sure I know. If Apple were indeed the carcinogenic, sterilizing, baby-killer and lynch mob organizer you say it is, there'd be nobody using it. Either every single one of the millions of Mac users is completely stupid, which ccould be the case, (They do have computers colored pink), or there is something about them that is a viable alternative to whatever else exists out there.
But, whatever. PCs rule, MAC users are nearly as dumb as Klan members using useless pieces of shit, so hooray for discussion. I bow in deference to your "Facts" and "Evidence" and your superiority in general.
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
Not strictly related: Interesting, albeit from Slashdot.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
go to hell.
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
Good point.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Without addressing anyone in particular, I wish to state that I have been using Macintosh systems ever since my father first purchased a Performa 600 back in 1993 or so, running System 7.1. I have been managing my own computer since I purchased a Blueberry iMac 266 (with my own money) in January 1999, when I was 17. I've never needed major assistance in troubleshooting my computer, although my father and I frequently offer advice and minor assistance for maintaining each other's computers.
And in case someone did not know, FreeBSD is UNIX. It's as much UNIX as Yellow Dog Linux is the same as Red Hat Linux. Why would Apple widely advertise that its new OS was based on UNIX if that were not true?
I freely admit that I'm what people would consider a "Mac fanatic." And I do firmly believe that Mac is the superior system. I respect other people's preferences, because there's more than just my own personal taste involved. There's practicality and efficiency -- which can often be served by using Windows or UNIX or whatever, depending on your field of use. However, what I do take exception to is the insistence that "Macs suck" with only vague and nebulous quasi-evidence. There's no real superior system at this point -- because everyone uses different systems for different reasons. It's how the economy works -- strength through diversity.
What the heck happened to "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations"?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"First off, there is no such thing as 'overpriced.'"
overpriced == priced higher than the majority believe it's worth
"I also didn't read a single word of your ultra-long rant that was probably nothing but regurgitated arguments about why Windows machines are so much faster."
So, if this were a real, live, in-person debate, you'd be sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "LA-LA-LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"? Impressive...
"you simply need to grow a brain before you make stupid statements. the fact that you lash out at my character, as opposed to my words, probably shows that you are uncomfortable with your own lack of factual argument and that you are uncomfortable with your own choices."
This is so far beyond the scope of reason that I can't even think of anything to say to it.
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
ER: For the record, I have read and considered every one of your posts. You know this would be a lot less frustrating if I could write you off as just another stupid l33t fanatic. But you are obviously a fairly smart person (although perhaps not a smartly fair one (*rimshot*).)
quote:Originally posted by EdipisReks: ... comparing previous car models.
Let's talk about cars. There's this country, call it Japan. They have been making cars for a couple of years now. When they first started making cars, the quality still wasn't really all that great. Then they figured it out. Now they make all these terrific little cars that will run for, like, years without you ever having to look under the hood if you don't want to. They tend to be cheaper, more reliable and have more options than comparable American or European cars. Does this mean that we should all forgo our Buicks, Jeeps, Fords, BMWs, VWs and Chryslers because they are irrelevant? When I buy a car I'm looking necessarily for the fastest in the quarter-mile, the cheapest sticker-price, the one boasting the best gas milage numbers or even the highest saftey rating. I'm looking for something 1a) that I can fit my disproportionately large body into 1b) that feels 'comfortable' 2) that I 'enjoy' the way it handles 3) that has a nice sounding stereo on which to listen to my silly 80s nostalgia and nerdy electronic music 4) that will get me there and back with the least hassle. 5) that will fit into my budget. Accordingly this makes the Chrysler the best car in the world, but that doesn't mean I think they are right for everyone. In fact, I'd probably be kind of pissed if everyone had as phat a ride as my super-plush New Yorker.
Now if I were a street-racer, my priorities would change dramatically. Suddenly acceleration would matter. Obnoxious neon color themes and big important-seeming compression gauges and noisy mufflers would be the order of the day. But I'm not a street racer. I'm a fat (no worries, Tim) and lazy graphic designer who wants to have a cushy ass ride with a bitchin' stereo. Do you kind of see what I'm saying here? That there are a variety reasons to use prefer one way to another that are different from your own personal criteria.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN:
"I also didn't read a single word of your ultra-long rant that was probably nothing but regurgitated arguments about why Windows machines are so much faster."
So, if this were a real, live, in-person debate, you'd be sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "LA-LA-LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"? Impressive...
Okay, maybe that sounded silly. What I was trying to say was that Edipis was basically repeating his entire argument. Despite how my above quote probably sounded, I did indeed start to read his reply. I then skimmed over most of it when I realized that he was just regurgitating previous arguments regarding processor speeds which I had already dismissed.
If I were doing the equivalent of sticking my fingers in my ears, etc, I'd be typing something like...
shaddUP! U din:'t no notHin abut MACintish!11! Max rulez!~!2
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote: PsyLiam you say my argument isn't fair. well, you are full of shit.
Oh, well done sir. I am now honour bound to listen to everything you say, and agree.
The main reason I don't like Macs is that you can't swap files between the PC and Mac versions of ICQ. This annoys me.
Of course, you can't swap files between the PC versions of ICQ, and that thing Omega uses. Idiot boy.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I think I picked the wrong bit to quote.
quote: At first he had seemed like such an intelligent and interesting guy, she said, but then "he started going all PC-versus-Mac on me."
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Of course, you can't swap files between the PC versions of ICQ, and that thing Omega uses. Idiot boy.
What, is it a requirement now to call me an idiot in EVERY Flameboard thread, even if I haven't frelling POSTED?
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Maybe they should add that to the forum FAQ.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: The main reason I don't like Macs is that you can't swap files between the PC and Mac versions of ICQ. This annoys me.
I've never used ICQ -- I don't use online chats much. The only reason I use MSN Messenger is to pitch and develop stories with other writers of the "Renaissance" project.
The reason I bring this up is because Microsoft recently added the ability for file transfer to the Mac version of MSN Instant Messenger. (What, about three years after they first brought it out?) So I know that file transfers over chat are possible, between Windows and Macs. It might be something to do with ICQ software. (Not trying to evoke martyrdom or anything like that; just pointing out that it may be a software problem, not a platform problem.)
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I wasn't being serious MM.
quote: What, is it a requirement now to call me an idiot in EVERY Flameboard thread, even if I haven't frelling POSTED?
Either that, or for me to call Timmy a "fat-boy".
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Either that, or for me to call Timmy a "fat-boy".
Geez, Tim. This whole time and I didn't even know. I gotta tell you I think your Three Stooges inspired antics were grossly underappreciated, and that Disorderlies wasn't never really given a chance at the box-office. Do you and the guys think you'd ever hook back up? I think the time is ripe for a 'Coming Back Hard For Yet Another Time' revival.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
You can share files and insert images between PC and Mac with AIM. Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
$3.99 for all you can eat? / Well, I'm a stuff my face to a funky beat! / We're gonna walk inside, and guess what's up / Put some food in my plate, and some Coke in my cup / Give me some chicken, franks, and fries / And you can pass me a lettuce. I'm a pass it by / So keep shoveling, onto my plate / Give me some sweets and lots of cake / Give me some hot Macaroni and Cheese! / Give me, some more food PLEASE!!!! / Give me some balogna, salami, and ham / Toast with butter and strawberry jam / I love it whether the food is cold or hot /Put a burger on the plate, and it'll hit the spot / We'll eat everything. An incredible feat / $3.99 for all you can eat!
It's better than Wesley Willis, I say.
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
Wipe Out...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I'm so lost, it is indescribable...
Posted by ThoughtPyminal (Member # 480) on :
I make my Mac and my Sony Vaio have sex. Because when they really don't like each other the sex is even better. It's kind of brutal, even.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Well, when you're inserting foreign objects into their ports, I can see how that might cause some problems. Although they might get a real "charge" out of it... Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Shocking, even.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Sean Connery is rotating around in his grave.
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Neat trick, considering he's not dead yet.
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
Yes. If he's dead, who's that on SNL?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
And just because I don't want to look stupid, I know he's not dead. Reminder:
"They're butchering the classics! Could that bassoonist have come in any more late?"
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Well I can see why this thread was moved the the Flameboard now... wasn't this thing about what kind of desktop you had on the computer you use? It wasn't originally political, it was more fun-like. What the hell happend to a lot of us here who all of a sudden became embroiled in the OS wars? The computer, whether a Windows based or Mac based, is still a dumb machine that waits for us to push or click something. I don't care whether my machine can run diagnostics by itself or OS X can allocate memory automatically based on what I use most often; computers are still dependent on people. People matter the most, not the machines we use. We should get along and expect not to have the same views. People like Mac, so be it. People love Windows, fine. But let's not bitch and scream about what OS is better because in the end, neither will reach perfection but we might. A man once said that the machines are suppose to serve mankind, not enslave it. So why don't we try to get along because we can always replace an OS, but not people.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Are you trying to get us to hug, or something?
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
No, I believe he wants us to kiss and make up. Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Leaping into a Kirk-type soliquy on how man shall NEVER BE ENSLAVED BY MACHINES is an interesting way to do it.
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Some people are an endless fountain of creativity.
Posted by Daryus Aden (Member # 12) on :
Anyway hugging certain people around here could get you into all sorts of trouble. Or so I hear. Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Hugging Tim would be a challenge of the highest order.
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
Well, getting your arms around him at least. I'm sure he's still huggable, albeit not desirably so.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Don't make me post my picture again...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Which one? I recall two...
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
This one. Doesn't he look cute?
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Well that just destroyed my image of TSN...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Someone doesn't read captions...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Yeah, but at least they know not to hotlink directly to SA.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Sure, now they do...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Some of them also realised pretty soon after that image was posted, and not, say, two whole days later.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Yes, but they weren't able to see the image that I had intended to post. And I wasn't able to see the image they were seeing.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Open your eyes Tim. Open them...to the possibilities!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Don't blame my eyes. Blame my browser cache.
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
Enthralling as the accusation of alleged fatness is, it's about as interesting to read as rants about which OS is teh winnar and gets the power up.
Hey, Edipis. Why don't you tell us all about memory and what makes PC2100 different from PC800 and PC3200 (like what the frick those numbers are) and why ECC can't go in every machine and how RAMBUS is different from DDR and what kind of memory you favor and how exactly you were able to put together a machine with such impressive specs...
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Classic.
Posted by Captain... Mike (Member # 709) on :
I am amused
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
LOL! That is awesome. Is it an actual functional desktop? Making it an active desktop wouldn't be too hard, I don't think...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I think he just put all the extra stuff in the background, then moved the real icons into the proper positions.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Listen to the man, for he extra girth allows him to power a larger than average brain.
And brains are like memory, aren't they? But are they more like Rambus or DDR memory? Eh? That's the question.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Too bad I am still operating with the original 64k....
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Back on topic...
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
The Challenger? Isn't that ship suppose to be dead?
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
That's the Belknap. That's why the hull says "Belknap".
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
This is 021310061976's Belknap model. It's not complete, but he might get back to it sometime. He did these renders for me on request. Nice guy. Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
With a fetish for barcodes?
Posted by Captain... Mike (Member # 709) on :
um.. can i steal it?
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Cap'n Mike, make your own.
Posted by Captain... Mike (Member # 709) on :
I wasn't talking to you, O One Who Misidentifies Strike Cruisers as Composite Frigates, so lay off..
Now, as I was saying, would 73395900101 be willing to let me use that image if i gave him (or it) some type of credit?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
You have Photoshop 7 and PSP 7? Isn't that a bit redundent?
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
No.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Photoshop =/= Paint Shop Pro
Silly Brit.
Posted by Magnus de Pym (Member # 239) on :
No doubt dutifully paid for, both.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
So speaketh the knight in shining armor.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Bling-bling, sirrah.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I can honestly say that every piece of software on my computer is either paid for, or else is shareware that I'm currently trying out.
It's taken a while, and some of those applications I "borrowed" from my father's office starting three or four years ago, but I've finally caught up. All I can say is, thank goodness for the educational discounts! (Macromedia Studio MX: $800 --> $200 with discount for students and faculty.)
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Harry: Photoshop =/= Paint Shop Pro
Silly Brit.
Yes, I know. But why would you need both?
Posted by Captain... Mike (Member # 709) on :
i consider photoshop to be more of a tool for editing and coloring existing images, while paint shop is handier when creating a graphic from scratch. i definitely wish i had both at home.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
Here's mine for the hell of it ... my laptop's desktop (reduced from 1024x768 to 800x600 and gif format). And regarding what program is better for images in my opinion, Photoshop 5.5. It's what I used to make this wallpaper from stratch.
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Posted by Nimpim (Member # 205) on :
Is "Tweak-XP" any good? What are the main benefittos? Can't wait for the first XP-service pack coming now in septober...
Posted by E. Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Main benefit for me is the ability to remove most of XP's unneeded services that suck up system resources (which is why I prefer Win '2K - far less bloated).
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
I had PSP7, it stopped working, used PS7, got PSP7 working again, never bothered to remove PS7... But it's gone now.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
I try to use the system clean up option which came up with a rather long list of unnecessary files. But the Tweak-XP crashes everytime I try to use that option.
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