Nuts. I was actually looking forward to this one. Despite it being Schumacher and all.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Fucking real life interupting this... Someone ought to shoot that sniper....
Posted by Alshrim (Member # 258) on :
I'll wait to see how the guy acquired the rifle! WE've seen so many debates on how it's everyone's right to own a gun ..
This is further proof that gun control should be better enforced...
Don't ask me how .. I'm not a politician .. I'm just a Canadian...
I ask everyone ... how can someone get such a powerful rifle?? (I'm not being sarcastic - i'm really asking .. )
Is this guy military? A Cop? Is this guy just a hick that got licensed and got stupid - and went on a rampage??
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
That has much to do with the movie. Much.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
quote:Originally posted by Alshrim: I ask everyone ... how can someone get such a powerful rifle?? (I'm not being sarcastic - i'm really asking .. )
Is this guy military? A Cop? Is this guy just a hick that got licensed and got stupid - and went on a rampage??
it's just a .223 (which is considered by many to be a pussy round), probably a bolt action varmint hunting rifle. you can pick one up from a gun store for $500. just because the media calls it a super high powered death stalker bazooka cannon rifle of satan doesn't mean that it is. there is lots of hunting in Canada, and a lot of Canadian big game requires a much more powerful rifle than a measly .223 mousegun. go ask a Canadian who hunts where he gets his guns.
in terms of what he is (military, pyscho, etc) we won't know until he's caught. hard thinkin', there .
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
quote:just because the media calls it a super high powered death stalker bazooka cannon rifle of satan doesn't mean that it is.
Yes. Generally, the media considers anything more powerful than a .22 rimfire an "assault weapon."
Posted by E. Cartman (Member # 256) on :
That might have something to do with the fact one could conceivably use said weapons to assault people.
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
In that case, I own an "assault umbrella."
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
quote:Originally posted by E. Cartman: That might have something to do with the fact one could conceivably use said weapons to assault people.
assault weapon isn't a real term. it was made up by the media to sound sinister.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Wouldn't it only be an assault weapon until you use it? Then it would be a battery weapon.
Posted by Magnus de Pym (Member # 239) on :
And then, if you put a battery in salt, you could have been assaulted by a salted battery battery weapon! And then!
Oh.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
As I understand it, the weapon being used is some sort of M-16/Armalite/CAR clone, presumably available commercially in semiautomatic mode only?
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
quote:assault weapon isn't a real term.
Actually, Edepis, the term was originally coined by gun manufacturers and sellers to describe any weapon that resembles the rifles used by the military, which *are* described as "assault rifles."
An assault rifle is a rifle which "has a switch that permits it to fire like a semiautomatic rifle or as a fully automatic rifle. Some also have a switch position that causes the gun to shoot a short burst of several shots each time the trigger is pulled."
quote:M-16/Armalite/CAR clone, presumably available commercially in semiautomatic mode only?
White Marsh Arms, located, oddly enough, in Reisterstown, actually has (or had) a pre-ban fully automatic AR-15 for sale for about $5k. So it's not impossible to get one fully auto, it just costs a lot of $$$.
I don't know - and I don't think anyone does - that the weapon is an assault rifle. It could be a hunting rifle. But you're right that assault rifles and clones of such and look alikes of such are commercially available.
Posted by Nimpim (Member # 205) on :
Anyone killing nine people with a rifle has pretty much proven he knows all the cords on that rifle. We had a big scare in Sweden ten years ago, a racist with a rifle with lasersight, shooting immigrants. Out of five people shot in the head, three survived, so this new guy could have been trained.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Ah. I just thought I'd seen some report that the weapon used had been identified from ballistics as a Bushmaster Armalite-type weapon. I wasn't really paying attention so can't really vouch for the report's veracity.
Without getting into the legality of it all (fat chance of that, I suspect!), I'm not sure why people feel the need to own fully-automatic weapons. Unless it's for the sheer joy of firing one at juat a practise target, which I myself can testify to (happiness is a Bren Gun on full auto - and as for the GPMG: Oh. My. God.), and probably answers my question. . . 8)
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
A .223 round isn't all that great, unless you send a lost of them down range. A 22-250 is a fast round, with a nice flat trajectory, which one would want as a sniper.
Another problem is that the standard military .223 round will spin if it hits anything, and tumbling all by itself occurs, making for a messy impact on a person, or animal.