Since racism is a worldwide problem that no nation on earth has not been affected by, I figure we should look at things from a different perspective. Answer the question in your own way.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
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Definitely not a question that comes up very often I see.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Seriously, though.. what are you talking about?
There is no racism in Tolkiens work. The only races are *actually* different races.
And the only black people in the books are from the southern nations, and under Sauron's rule. When Sam sees a dead Southron lying in front of him, this is what follows:
quote: It was Sam's first view of a battle of Men against Men, and he did not like it much. [...] He wondered what the man's name was and where he had came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home.
No "black people are evil". No racism. I don't understand what you're trying to say...
Posted by Mountain Man (Member # 1114) on :
I haven't made any claims just asking a question. You'll figure it out in time.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
How about you just cut the bullshit, hmm?
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Did a bit of Googling around.
It seems like certain people think Tolkien was anti-Semitic because his Dwarvish language has a similar structure to Hebrew.
I don't know why a fictional language invented by a great writer for a typical European mythical creature is anti-Semitic. Whoever came up with that clearly had a bit too much time on his hands.
Theory dismissed. Go home now, Mountain Troll.
Posted by Mountain Man (Member # 1114) on :
Never my theory. not a bad answer,though incomplete. There are other reasons that have been given. would you like to look them up as well?
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
I, for one, would not. Please, stop acting like some sort of mystical guru. Don't ask some sort of vague question and expect everyone to care simply because you ask it. Say what you mean to say.
Posted by Mountain Man (Member # 1114) on :
Not enough input yet. No data no solution.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
I found something interesting.
quote:After Hitler came to power, but prior to World War II, the German government officially requested, through Tolkien's publisher, that he establish his racial purity so they could authorize a translation of "The Hobbit".
The Oxford don, struggling financially to support his family, could have used the income from Third Reich sales. Instead, though Tolkien is a Germanic name, he took the opportunity to remind the Nazis of the ludicrous pretension of racial purity.
"Thank you for your letter.... I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend," he wrote. "I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are inquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people...."
Posted by Mountain Man (Member # 1114) on :
Very good spike. Not the one I expected. thanks. There are more references and I believe you'll all gain something from them.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Why are there so many questios from this guy? Some of which don't make sense?!! Mountain Man keeps saying things like "all will be revelaed" and "just wait, you'll see."
What is his goal? His ulterior motive? A pan-Mountain Man forum, encompassing the entire Internet? A book made up of quotes from us, the average forum member?
What is it? Posted by Mountain Man (Member # 1114) on :
Paranoia strikes deep. This thread has already shown good results.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Here's a question. I already know the answer I want, but I want the rest of you to go out and find it for no particular reason."
If you've got a point to make, make it. Otherwise, fuck off.
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