That's Toronto: see what happens when your city doesnt have a effective Mob presence to guide the unions and keep such media coverage to a minimum?
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Why not thirty-nine times? Or forty-one?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
39 wouldnt communicate his displesure effectivly, 41 would be spiteful.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Why specifically cement? Why not asphalt or concrete?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Cement has just the right PSI to inlict the kind of damage he wants. ....and asphalt's smelly.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Still. IIRC, and someone can correct me on this. Aren't cement trucks the ones with that big rotary thing on the back? If we're running over union leaders....and I assume that we do mean plural, as in leaders, not leader...wouldn't it be more efficient to find something with a lower centre of gravity? If only to avoid tipping or flipping?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Every post on this topic for years now, summarized: A group of workers have interests different than my own. Therefore they are evil!
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
It's not the Group of workers that concerns me, it is the leaders who "act" in their so-called interest.
You'll also observe that the majority of posts revolve around union militancy, leadership, and how they have too much power. That is the key here. Too bad no one in Ontario is willing to at least stand up against them.
Oh, 39 times is not dead enough. 41 is basically too puree.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Do you also want them to scream in agony after 39 runs? Or maybe pluck out their left eyeballs while you're at it? B)
Posted by Styrofoaman (Member # 706) on :
Unions.
There will never ever be a union here as long as I own it.
Bloody useless they are. Don't need them. Don't like your working conditions?
Get! A! New! Job!
It's that simple.
Don't waste your time getting a bunch of morons to dictate terms to the company, all you'll do is drive your job to China.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"There will never ever be a union here as long as I own it."
You're not the least bit bitter about this Asian Thing, are you?
[ December 28, 2003, 11:34 AM: Message edited by: Cartman ]
Posted by Styrofoaman (Member # 706) on :
Had a change of heart after the workers at Arco Bag drove themselves out of a job. Rather funny really.
What happened is this: They asked for incresed health benifits, all they wanted was the company to pick up more of the cost.
Union went in and demanded that the company cover 100% of the health-care costs. Arco Inc responded to these demands by shutting down it's american plant and shifting all it's work over to China.
Now the workers are suing the union for mis-representing them and the town is taking Arco to court for abandoning thier plant.
...this from the Union that my workers wanted to represent them.
Yeah, not in a million years.
Posted by Styrofoaman (Member # 706) on :
And why should I not be bitter about the "asian thing?" In 10 years we'll be totaly dependent on imports from China and they'll be able to dictate terms to us.
Watch it happen.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Styrofoaman: Don't like your working conditions?
Get! A! New! Job!
It's that simple.
It is. Why, jobs are so easy to get now that they come free with cereal packets.
Posted by Styrofoaman (Member # 706) on :
In most of the cases I've looked at, the working conditions at the companies in question were a result of either the manufacturing process itself or were created by the workers themselves.
One example was a large paperboard company in New England where the workers were complaining about how hot and damp the plant was. It's a PAPER MILL, it's going to be hot and damp! However, they joined a union, demanded enviromental controls and won. This forced said papermill to collapse due to the extreme costs, and 3,000 people lost thier jobs.
Another one: Workers were being injured on the job at a maker of packaging films. They demanded through thier union better working conditions. The company invested millions in worker safety training and equipment. It is well documented that the workers then proceeded to ignore the safety training in order to earn production bonus-rewards. Then they demanded that the company again update the safety program. This happened four(!) times before said company collapsed.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Oh, to see the WORLD of INDUSTRIAL TITANS from the top of the pinnacle.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
"When there's trouble you know who to call..."
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Nothing like corperate money overpowering those sillly safety concerns.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
quote:Originally posted by Styrofoaman: And why should I not be bitter about the "asian thing?" In 10 years we'll be totaly dependent on imports from China and they'll be able to dictate terms to us.
Hah. The stupid "gwai lo" thinks it will take 10 years. Thank goodness for Americans that underestimate the reach of our ridiculously circuitous plan to take over the world.
Oh wait, I've said too much already.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Canada is planning to take over the world?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Canada is planning to take over the world?
Mind control via beer.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Canada is famous for beer?
Posted by WizArtist (Member # 1095) on :
I remember my mom being in a closed shop communications union in the late 70's. The union went on strike putting everyone out for about four or five weeks. But, THEY WON! my mom got a whole 15 CENT raise! Let's see, she was making $15.00 per hour......off for five weeks......
Huh....
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Canada is famous for beer?
Well they sure as hell arent famous for mind control, are they?
yet. Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
Hear, hear, Styrofoaman. This from a person at the centre of the political spectrum.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Unions seem to suffer from the same curse that eventually afflicts all special-interests: they never go away, even when they've already accomplished everything they ever set out to do. Unions did a lot for workers in the UK in the first half of the last century, but ultimately they became too political. Result: the 70's were a decade of unrest, and when Thatcher came to power she proceded to destroy this country's industrial heritage in order to make certain the Unions would never again threaten the corporate interests she represented.
That said, there's a lot that unions could do for worker's conditions in the US. Yet there seems to be this all-pervasive hatred of them which I just don't understand. It's more than just examples of union idiocy cited above, just something in the American character I guess. Like you associate them solely with socialism or something.
Posted by Styrofoaman (Member # 706) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ultra Magnus: Oh, to see the WORLD of INDUSTRIAL TITANS from the top of the pinnacle.
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