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Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
 
I had to temporarily give up my boycot of the New Yor Times to post this :

quote:
November 8, 2005
Editorial
President Bush's Walkabout

After President Bush's disastrous visit to Latin America, it's unnerving to realize that his presidency still has more than three years to run. An administration with no agenda and no competence would be hard enough to live with on the domestic front. But the rest of the world simply can't afford an American government this bad for that long.

In Argentina, Mr. Bush, who prides himself on his ability to relate to world leaders face to face, could barely summon the energy to chat with the 33 other leaders there, almost all of whom would be considered friendly to the United States under normal circumstances. He and his delegation failed to get even a minimally face-saving outcome at the collapsed trade talks and allowed a loudmouthed opportunist like the president of Venezuela to steal the show.

It's amazing to remember that when Mr. Bush first ran for president, he bragged about his understanding of Latin America, his ability to speak Spanish and his friendship with Mexico. But he also made fun of Al Gore for believing that nation-building was a job for the United States military.

The White House is in an uproar over the future of Karl Rove, the president's political adviser, and spinning off rumors that some top cabinet members may be asked to walk the plank. Mr. Bush could certainly afford to replace some of his top advisers. But the central problem is not Karl Rove or Treasury Secretary John Snow or even Donald Rumsfeld, the defense secretary. It is President Bush himself.

Second terms may be difficult, but the chief executive still has the power to shape what happens. Ronald Reagan managed to turn his messy second term around and deliver - in great part through his own powers of leadership - a historic series of agreements with Mikhail Gorbachev that led to the peaceful dismantling of the Soviet empire. Mr. Bush has never demonstrated the capacity for such a comeback. Nevertheless, every American has a stake in hoping that he can surprise us.

The place to begin is with Dick Cheney, the dark force behind many of the administration's most disastrous policies, like the Iraq invasion and the stubborn resistance to energy conservation. Right now, the vice president is devoting himself to beating back Congressional legislation that would prohibit the torture of prisoners. This is truly a remarkable set of priorities: his former chief aide was indicted, Mr. Cheney's back is against the wall, and he's declared war on the Geneva Conventions.

Mr. Bush cannot fire Mr. Cheney, but he could do what other presidents have done to vice presidents: keep him too busy attending funerals and acting as the chairman of studies to do more harm. Mr. Bush would still have to turn his administration around, but it would at least send a signal to the nation and the world that he was in charge, and the next three years might not be as dreadful as they threaten to be right now.


 
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
 
Cheney/Rove 2008.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Chuthlu/Lucifer 2008
"Why vote for the lesser evil?" 
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
Oh, Good Lord. Okay, Jay, we get it! You hate Bush. I'm obviously not going to be able to stop you from posting these things every other hour, but could you at least find some sources that might actually give at least some of the facts from both sides? (Not for my benefit, of course, since I have stopped reading anything you post in this sub-forum.)

B.J.
 
Posted by Mighty Blogger Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
In that case, why bother posting in this forum... ?
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
*snicker*

(Seriously though, Bush is the Devil.)
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
I'm so going to register Jay as a Republican come April 1st.
 
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
 
No the False Prophet maybe, but not enough pazzazz to be much more.

Jason, why wait?
 
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by B.J.:
but could you at least find some sources that might actually give at least some of the facts from both sides? B.J.

Why would I do that?

If anyone wants to defend Mr. Bush, be my guest. Post it here, we'll have a debate.

I've no interest in defending the worst president we've ever had.

I think he should be impeached for sheer incompetence...but I imagine that his Iraq misadventure of the Valerie Plame matter might reach the levels of high crimes and misdemeanors.
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
http://www.zod2008.com/ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Excellent!
 
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
Even though he's creeped me out everywhere but on Saturday Night Live, I'd throw my support behind Christopher Walken.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:
http://www.zod2008.com/ [Big Grin]

He sucked at ruling the Galactc Republic, you think he'll do better with our National one?

Phht.

I'd vote for Walken any day- provided he dresses like Gabriel from The Prophecy. Think of the intimidation factor!

...though on the downside, the State of The Union address would stretch to about six hours.
"My fellow Americans...I come....before you tonight...
(30 seconds of silence).to speak on an imporntant matter..."
 


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