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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Now can we officially declare that the executive branch of the United States government is a terrorist organization?
 
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
 
It's the fault of the media for reporting these things!
 
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
 
Why start a whole new thread for this.

Just go read this National Journal article.

quote:
ADMINISTRATION
What Bush Was Told About Iraq

By Murray Waas, National Journal
� National Journal Group Inc.
Thursday, March 2, 2006

Two highly classified intelligence reports delivered directly to President Bush before the Iraq war cast doubt on key public assertions made by the president, Vice President Cheney, and other administration officials as justifications for invading Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein, according to records and knowledgeable sources.

The first report, delivered to Bush in early October 2002, was a one-page summary of a National Intelligence Estimate that discussed whether Saddam's procurement of high-strength aluminum tubes was for the purpose of developing a nuclear weapon.

Among other things, the report stated that the Energy Department and the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research believed that the tubes were "intended for conventional weapons," a view disagreeing with that of other intelligence agencies, including the CIA, which believed that the tubes were intended for a nuclear bomb.

The disclosure that Bush was informed of the DOE and State dissents is the first evidence that the president himself knew of the sharp debate within the government over the aluminum tubes during the time that he, Cheney, and other members of the Cabinet were citing the tubes as clear evidence of an Iraqi nuclear program. Neither the president nor the vice president told the public about the disagreement among the agencies.

The first report, delivered to Bush in early October 2002, was a one-page summary of a National Intelligence Estimate that discussed whether Saddam's procurement of high-strength aluminum tubes was for the purpose of developing a nuclear weapon.

Among other things, the report stated that the Energy Department and the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research believed that the tubes were "intended for conventional weapons," a view disagreeing with that of other intelligence agencies, including the CIA, which believed that the tubes were intended for a nuclear bomb.

The disclosure that Bush was informed of the DOE and State dissents is the first evidence that the president himself knew of the sharp debate within the government over the aluminum tubes during the time that he, Cheney, and other members of the Cabinet were citing the tubes as clear evidence of an Iraqi nuclear program. Neither the president nor the vice president told the public about the disagreement among the agencies.


 
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
 
And take a look at this article in Foreign Affairs.

quote:
Summary: During the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, writes the intelligence community's former senior analyst for the Middle East, the Bush administration disregarded the community's expertise, politicized the intelligence process, and selected unrepresentative raw intelligence to make its public case.

 
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
 
Well, *technically* wouldn't this not be a new development? For example, the targeting of civilians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, wouldn't that by the normal definition be a war crime?

To be honest, "war crimes" are one of those subjective things that every nation in the world has been guilty of at one point or another if they've ever fought another nation. Except for Poland, because they always get invaded. [Wink]

Not sure what point I'm trying to make...
 
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
 
*double-post*
 


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