Well no one has heard about this large oil slick in the Mediterranean that is nearly the size of the Exxon Valdez?? Look at the video HERE!
Absolutely disgusting. Israel needs to be fined or should foot the cost of the bill to clean up the shore line. Probably too late to save those endangered turtles though. Look at that crab just covered in oil trying to wipe of the oil from it's eyes/eye stalks.
THIS is a crime.
They are invading a country to find a terrorist group, yet they are bombing oil refineries!?! Puh-leese.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Bombing the power stations fuel supply from what I have found.
The western press sure didn't give this good coverage.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Yes, the fact that we don't have a thread devoted to every discrete event taking place on or off the globe means we've surely never heard of it.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well after all I mean people are dying, innocent civilians at that so its understandable.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Yes, the fact that we don't have a thread devoted to every discrete event taking place on or off the globe means we've surely never heard of it.
Thanks, I guess you could start a thread for every cynical comment you have too.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ritten: Bombing the power stations fuel supply from what I have found.
The western press sure didn't give this good coverage.
Israel wont let people in there to clean the area up!! Stupid. It's an eco-crime (if they haven't used that term before I am now). Those baby turtles covered in oil sludge - that is not on.
Posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot (Member # 239) on :
People > Baby Turtles
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
"Thanks, I guess you could start a thread for every cynical comment you have too."
There's scarcely the bandwidth, but you can always check out my blog.
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
Non-Oil soaked ecosystems function much better than those soaked in crude.
Still, after the Exxon Valdez, there seems little excuse for ships to be creating oil spills.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
I read the news daily and never saw anything on this, which is sad indeed, for I am either blind, which makes typig a problem, or the news feeds I have didn't send it.
Sol, what's got you in such a mood, your last few posts have been rather negative.
The equation is wrong, people < turtles.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
In what way?
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
What, that people < turtles. I just like turtles better than people I guess.
Oh, you mean you seeming to be negative.
Let's see, you abruptly locked this thread, which I guess tainted the other posts you made. It was unlocked before I got a chance to send a PM to you asking WTF. Upon rereading them to remark on them now they weren't bad.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I moved this thread to the appropriate forum. The copy left behind is locked, as they always are.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Strange, the oil slick did get plenty of coverage here in Finland, and I never realized this wasn't yer standard globally-recycled-Reuters reporting.
I guess people<>turtles depends on the exact species, breed and stage of maturity. But the good old "keep the helpers from helping" trick is by no means limited to this oil spill. If Israel is going to bomb the roads sufficiently to prevent Katyusha trailers from being towed to firing position, those roads aren't going to allow food or water to be trucked in, either.
Another related good old trick is the triple volley, apparently also implemented here to good effect. First, hit the enemy. Wait for five minutes, then hit again to catch those who are helping the wounded. Then hit once more when the people at the receiving end think "they can't be so evil that they would do it again".
There's something of a discontinuity between the reality of war, and the international treaties that still stipulate that nothing bigger than .30 cal machine guns should ever be used on unprotected people.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
In positive news, the retired carrier U.S.S. Oriskany was sunk in the Gulf of Mexico to be an artificial reef, and was so thoroughly stripped and cleaned, there was no slick at all left to mark its passing.
I agree this spill is criminal, both in origin and in resolution (or lack of), it's annoying to me tha tall the news organs seem to focus on the gloom and doom, and the NICE things happening around the world warrent hardly an afterthought.
--Jonah
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
quote:Originally said by Bill Hicks: Wouldn't you like to see a positive LSD story on the news? To hear what it's all about perhaps? Wouldn't that be interesting? Just for once? "Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. . . That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
Sorry. I'm feeling positive today. We had a missing cat just - literally - turned up. Been missing for days. While looking for her I discovered an area of wasteland a couple of blocks behind our house that I swear is where they filmed the battle scene at the beginning of "Arena." You know, the one with the mortar.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Of course, there's always BP's idiotic profit-mongering causing leaks in Alaska. It's been peported that BP had not cleaned it's oil pipeline in years (while other companies clean pipes every few weeks to prevent corrosion).
Of course, there was a panic over the massive oil shortage and oil went up almost $2 per barrel.
Which, of course profits BP.
Niiiiice.
The sinking of the U.S.S. Oriskany was covered in the local paper nicely- turns out that the Navy has a very strict policy on mothballed ships and has them meticulously cleaned to prevent any leakage- anything sunk as a reef is inspected by the EPA and Coast Guard before getting the go-ahead.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
I'm really impressed that something as toxic as a carrier could be cleaned up that well. Now how to fund similar treatment for all retiring ships?
(Also, what's the latest on those WWII oilers that were supposed to go to Britain for scrapping and hopefully not kill every little fish in the Atlantic on their way across?)
quote:Originally posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot: People > Baby Turtles
Yes, always. I'd even be bold enough to say that I'd kill all the baby turtles if it meant saving one human. Though Israel does need to let that get cleaned up.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ventriloquists Got Shot: People > Baby Turtles
No, never. I'd even be bold enough to say that I'd kill all the humans if it meant saving one baby turtle. Though Israel does need to let that get cleaned up.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Perhaps. I'd even be bold enough to say that I'd kill all the humans and baby turtles for a Klondike Bar. Though Israel does need to let that get cleaned up.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Human soup doesn't sound appetizing in the least though.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
What about mock human soup?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Then I suggest, Ritten, that you do not attend my funeral.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Making soup of yourself?
TSN, depends on who mocked the human.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Yes.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Timo: I'm really impressed that something as toxic as a carrier could be cleaned up that well. Now how to fund similar treatment for all retiring ships?
(Also, what's the latest on those WWII oilers that were supposed to go to Britain for scrapping and hopefully not kill every little fish in the Atlantic on their way across?)
Timo Saloniemi
It's strange to see all that "French toxic carrier" mess- I just watched a program on the History Channel that went into extreme detail on how the U.S. "mothballs" it's retired ships and goes to extreme measures to keep them clean and even rust-free. Both for possible re-activation (as the Iowa has been several times) or as a source for parts for active ships. That French carrier does not look so old that it should be full of asbestos- are there lower standards for that stuff in europe, or did the asbestos restrictions just come later than the U.S. military's did?
Not that I think sinking a ship and declaring it a "reef" while real coral reefs are being killed off every day is a bright idea...more of a distraction from the real problem.
quote:Yes, always. I'd even be bold enough to say that I'd kill all the baby turtles if it meant saving one human.
That's almost the current EPA's motto- theirs is "We'd gladly allow the environment to be destroyed if it meant inconviencing Big Business"
Turtles- a positive part of the ecology. People- destroying the environment faster than ever before. The solution: Turtle/Human hybrids.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Oh, the environment will be here long after WE'RE gone...
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Turtles- a positive part of the ecology. People- destroying the environment faster than ever before. The solution: Turtle/Human hybrids.
Would they have to be teen-aged and study the martial arts?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
A movie about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? That's inconceivable! Oh and Jason my little comment on the turtles is exagerated. I wouldn't actually kill all the baby turtles I was just making the point that sometimes in emergency situations I find a human life more valuable than animal. That's not to say any animal or its habitat should be harmed. Basically I feel this way because I follow the Three Laws of Robotics.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
So, you can still kill people dressed like robots? Handy to know- time you started attending cosplay conventions.
While I think most humans warrant life over any single animal, I really do think human development should be halted in an area if it means any species destruction.