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Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
With control of the Titan's bridge, Vadic locks down the ship and threatens to begin executing the bridge crew if Jack doesn't surrender himself.

Riker and Troi further reconcile in their cell on the Shrike until rescued by Worf and Raffi. Worf is... weird when reuniting with Troi.

Onboard the Titan, Jack tries to use his powers to unlock the ship, but Vadic catches it.

Don't kill T'Veen... don't kill T'Veen... don't kill T'Veen... DAMMIT!

Data is now the only one who can unlock the ship, but can't do so while fighting Lore, so the partition is dropped.

Before leaving the Shrike, we get confirmation that the Changelings basically scooped out the parts of Picard's corpse affected by Irumodic Syndrome.

Data appears to be unwilling to fight Lore as Lore keeps taking memory keepsakes from him. One of those keepsakes is our nod to Tasha: The little holographic crystal thingy. However, Data has been using Lore's greed against him. By taking so much of Data, Lore is defeated from the inside out.

Data unlocks the ship, and with help from Riker, Troi, Worf, and Raffi, the ship is retaken.

"Fucking solids." *WHOOSH* [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Vadic is frozen in space, shatters against the hull of the Shrike, and is presumably blown up along with the ship.

Needing to know exactly what's up with Jack, Deanna uses her empathic abilities to walk him through opening the red door. Jack turns the knob and... cut to black.

I liked this episode a lot better than I thought I would, especially since I thought last week's first half was merely okay. Lots of unexpected humor (I was full-on belly-laughing at points) and lots of heartwarming scenes with the TNG crew. Maddening place to end the episode, though.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
I have no idea wtf I just watched.

Vadic freezes in space, but Laas doesn't? Is this an effect of the alterations or is it shitty writing & bad reference work? (Most likely the latter.)

I can't wait for 20 April & this is all done. They probably made the 2-month gap between this & SNW so that we could wash to bile out of our brains.
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
I'll wait for the last 2 episodes. I'm not used to cliffhangers anymore. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Zipacna (Member # 1881) on :
 
One thing that annoyed me in this episode. Vadic turned off all lights in the ship, shut down communications, and sealed off the doors...and then wanted Jack to come to the bridge. How? By taking away everyone's freedom of movement throughtout the ship, you've literally just made it so he can't physically get there!
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
For one moment there I thought Vadic was either going to float right into the airlock of the Shrike (or, as that would stretch credibility a bit TOO far, pulled in by a tractor beam) and then defrosted. But no, any chances of that were dashed (literally). Trek in the modern era really is all about blowing people out of airlocks, isn’t it - when they’re not getting sucked out of hull breaches anyway!

Worf has a cloaked shuttle?

Sooo, just two episodes to go and we still don’t know who Talky Hand Guy and/or Annoying Red Door Lady are. Could get a bit rushed - I mean, though I’ve enjoyed it more than I expected (Data - PROPER Data - back like he always should have been! Spot! The… heavensome sevensome…?… back around a table again!), the same pacing and structure problems have persisted.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Yeah, did THG die with Vadic, I wonder? Way to kill off your exposition.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Here are my takeaways:

Spot's a boy again!!

Can't Changelings live in the vacuum of space? Or was that a trick Lars had to learn?
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
It feels like there’s a lot we still don’t know about the Changeling plot. As Vadic tells it, she was one of the first of the new/improved/s31-fucked-around-with Changelings. And there were about a dozen of the originals. However they were able to spread their changes to others. And yet Vadic is plainly just a lackey. So what’s going on there?
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
It's all Nagilum.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
If it turns out to be Armus orchestrating everything, fuck it, I'll be onboard 100%.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
↑↑↑↑ I can't like-button this hard enough.
 
Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :
 
If I wanted to watch a TNG style episode, I would have watched TNG.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Something that hit me today: is no one noting the fact that Deanna has now canonically fucked a Changeling?
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
I think Armus would be kinda ridiculous. That being said I have a feeling the resolution won't be any less ridiculous.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Shik:
Something that hit me today: is no one noting the fact that Deanna has now canonically fucked a Changeling?

It wasn’t worded brilliantly but I think she was joking.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lee:
quote:
Originally posted by Shik:
Something that hit me today: is no one noting the fact that Deanna has now canonically fucked a Changeling?

It wasn’t worded brilliantly but I think she was joking.
Here's fucking hoping.
 


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