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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

I've read through most of the posts that Darkstar has created. And in each topic that Darkstar posts, there is always one or two people who are criticizing Darkstar himself.

Sure his ideas are not well thought out. But that does not give anyone the right to what I see as total character flaming.

To whomever said that his ideas belong in the Designs, Artwork, Creativity, forum, they belong here. This forum IS designed to talk about the next Star Trek Series and movies.

Dudes, cut it out. If this continues, I will not only snip and edit the posts, I will also e-mail a copy of them to Charles himself. I hate to do it, but Darkstar is welcome to post his ideas without the threat of Character Assassination.

That is all.

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Clarification: When I meant his posts, I was looking at his posts in his last 10 days. His other posts before these really do have good ideas in them.

[This message has been edited by Tahna Los (edited January 19, 2001).]

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Actually, they do belong in D&A. Just because one says it's a "series 5 idea", doesn't mean that it is. GD discussions about series 5 should be about the real series 5. Stuff that's simply made up and has no bearing whatsoever on the actual series does fall under the heading of "creativity".

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Posted by Nemesis (Member # 255) on :

I also would say that Darkstars ideas belong into the Design etc. area.

I must say his ideas are not that bad, not very outworked, but...
If i were you Darkstar, i would compile them and try to make a descent storyline out of it.
I'm trying to built my own StarTrek series myself for over 5 years by now... and i'm still not finished yet constructing it...

OH btw, the idea for my series premise was raised by someone...
Its about the collapse of the Romulan Empire.
Just for the credit, who was it anyway?

And please, stop to humiliate Darkstar! If you've problems with his ideas state it in a reasonable fashion.

It is really unnerving to read something like that!

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

Tahna: I was the one who suggested that Darkstar post his series ideas in DA&C. In no way was I criticizing him or making a personal attack on him. This was my exact wording:

"You might want to post your series ideas in the "Design, Artwork, and Creativity" forum instead of the General forum. "Series V" is going to be whatever TPTB make it. Make your own name for your series and post it at DA&C."

I wrote this post immediately after giving him some constructive criticism about how to write his story ideas. And I made the above suggestion for exactly the same reasons TSN just mentioned.

As for my post about counting his total posts, I can definitely see where someone would take offense at how I worded it. I certainly did not intend it to be taken that way, and I apologize if it was.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Nemesis,

First, maybe. I know he had a series involving the collapse of the Romulan Empire too.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

Will be strapped to a chair, have their eyelids taped open and forced to watch episodes of Barney?

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

I have nothing against what Darkstar says. I think what may be more of a 'problem' is the way he tells things.

Just my opinion...

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Actually, I think First'll make you listen to all of the people who return book lates and try to make up excses to get out of paying fines

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Posted by DARKSTAR on :

Thanks Tahna Los for the e-mail and I will be continuing to be a member of this site. I'll tell you about myslef
I am 17 years old and have been a Star trek fan since I was 6. My Dad was killed in a farming accident when I was 13. I live in Swindon in the UK. I have a stepdad and 3 stepbrothers. I also have a mum and sister.

Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Swindon. Well, that explains a lot. 8)

Only fooling, kid. Don't think we don't want you around, just. . . try to write your posts a bit better, OK? Round here, presentation is everything. I'm horrible to everyone, but I do it in a polite well-written way.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Well I guess we're all here for some reason.

Ah, don't listen to me. It's 4am here and I just finished watching Bill Paxton and Billy-Bob in "A simple plan". I'm so fucking depressed now.

But I agree, we shouldn't be so intolerant just because there isn't a red seal on every disposition.

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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

Altair, please watch your mouth.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

What The Fuck? Altair said nothing offensive at all.

I have nothing against what Darkstar says. I think what may be more of a 'problem' is the way he tells things.
Just my opinion...

Umm.....Okay, he's got a problem with the way Darkstar tells things. So do I. Apparently this is offensive in such a way that he "needs to watch his mouth", which you put, quite crassly, into the conversation.

He didn't call anyone a 'Cum Slurping Racoon Fucking Herpes Infested Homeless clown whore', he said something of little offensive value at all.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

One of my favorite bands ever is from Swindon! Just sayin'.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Darkstar sometimes has a tendency to reply in such a way that has 'This is a fact!' written all over it. It is annoying at most. Just a matter of choosing the right words. As a matter of fact he _was_ annoying with the all-capps-no-enters post, but that has changed for the better. He'll learn, I know he will

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Guess you haven't seen the 'roundabouts' thread yet.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

I didn't say how much time it will take for him to learn...

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

I gather this place has a problem with Admins becoming power-crazed. No doubt Tahna Loser's behavious is some demonstartion of this fact.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Er ... Vorgon ...

Tahna's simply trying to point out that while it's okay to attack Darkstar's ideas, it's not okay to attack Darkstar himself. In other words ...

Saying, "Darkstar, your idea that Voyager goes 500 ly is interesting but can you please back it up with some logic because as far as I can see you just made it up?" is okay, while

"Darkstar, you $^^$# stop making stuff up and $W^#% yourself" is not.

Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

JK:

Tahna told Altair to watch his mouth, after all Altair did was point out a legitimate problem with Darkstar's method of communicating. While I don't necessarily agree with Vogon's diagnosis, his analysis is legitimate in the absence of other evidence.

Care to clear this up, Tahna?

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

Would it be okay if you just attacked everyone instead? Like "**** you all you **** bastard ********* mother ********* ***hole ******s!"

Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :

%^@%$^#@$ What casual $%@ing swearing? Like@$#^%$#@ I will! Anybody that wants to @$^$@ #%@&% this %#@@^ing swearing, can %@$&@ go to %#@$#@

%@$&@ !!!!

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Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :

*sighs*

Horse.

Dead.

Stop beating it.

Do not attack others personally.

Do not think of taking this to the Flameboard.

If you want to call each other names, then take it to email, ICQ, or another seperate medium of choice.

Vogon, if you have issues with Tahna's behavior, then take it up with him in person elsewhere, or with me, Tim, Frank, or Daryus. If you continue to insult him and his behavior publically, then I will not be pleased.

This thread is closed.

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