In the Early days of DS9 there seems to be very little visits from other Federation starships/Admirals. The impression it gives is that DS9 isn't important. Yet when the threat of the Dominion comes up HUGE fleets appear near Bajor. ammitingly on my last post I said it takes 13 days to get to Earth at a constant Warp 9+ But surely there had to be starships closer. The Enterprise was 20 hrs away in "Emmisary" going by Warp speed(20 hrs away at maximum Warp-which it would undoubtly use as DS9 was under attack)We get a distance of 8 lyrs. So the Enterprise was somewhere between Bajor and Starbase 375. I can't remember where it was called to. DS9 up until 2371 is considered the "Garbage" can of the quadrant. Starship were about 3 days away from the Station at their respective Maximum speeds
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
At the beginning of the series, DS9 was supposed to be way the hell out in the sticks. It was supposed to be alot furthur away from Earth than it ended up being.
And until the wormhole was discovered and SF realized there was a threat, there was no need for any starships to be there.
I think the flow of the series in this regard went very nicely (except for the minor continuity problem regarding its distance from Earth). You have a story about this lone Federation outpost that has to adapt to working with another culture. The theme song is very slow and mellow which plays along nicely with the fact that this is a lone outpost.
Then when the action with the Dominion starts heating up and the Defiant comes into play, we get a new theme song that goes along with the developing feel of the show. The song, and the show are more active, more important, more energized.
I thought it worked well.
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Yeah, there are changes in the opening credits. I think this happened at the start of Season 4 with "The Way of the Warrior."
The changes are subtle for the most part. A bass line has been added (or amplified. I cannot recall if it was there originally) that last throughout the main body of the theme. I think that with the meteroid flyby, gong effects were added. And the closing of the theme with the Defiant entering the wormhole was reworked.
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
The whole song is deifferent. There's ships everywhere. Workbees flying around. All kinds of stuff. And the song is more upbeat. DS9 is now a mjor port of call.
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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
The melody is exactly the same, of course. New instruments were added, instead of the trumpet and viola solos that McCarthy included in the first one. It's not that big of a difference.
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Both theme tunes are quite nice. And certainlly more different that, say, the handful of different arrangments of the TNG main theme that were used. Of course, the best one is the extended 3 mintue version on the Space & Beyond album. That versions beautiful.
Apparently at first they just updated the titles. Then Berman told McCarthy to "energize" the song, as the slow paced music didn't quite work with the fast pased titles. He tried several different arrangments, including one with screaming guitars, and one with a celebrated Jazz Improvisationalist. None of them were kept, unfortunatly.
There is a guitar on the final version. And the thumping baseline is new, and originally, it was REALLY annoying to me (since the DS9 theme isn't in a standard time). But it grows on you.
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
The TNG opening credits changed at some point too, with fancier graphics. I am still waiting for Voyager to upgrade. I think it's good that no Trek-show has had opening credits that show pieces of action-clips or space-battles, or cute giggling portraits of the cast. Maybe if Voyager flew by the camera and fired a phaser-blast that etched out the names of the producers on the surface of a moon!
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I don't think Voyager will ever get a new song. This is the last season and still no change...
------------------ "A gathering of Angels appeared above my head. They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said..." -Styx
The DS9 tune was really boring. That, combined with the same composer's less-than-brilliant score for Generations, was probably why they made sure they got Goldsmith to do Voyager. Mind you, I'd be willing to bet, after Insurrection, he won't do the next film. . . I'd like to see Zimmer do a score, that would be interesting.
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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Not only did Voyager not get a new theme song, the casts' uniforms didn't change throughout the series either, like TNG & DS9 did. Unless, if they get home in the final episode, they switch to the current uniform. If anything, their uniforms should at least have looked ratty as hell from continually wearing them for 7 years.
B'elanna had some kind of engineering uniform variant, but I think she only wore it once or twice, and that the only reason it was made was to hide her stomach when she was pregnant. Come to think of it, that vest variant of the current uniform that both Picard and Sisko wore never caught on either.
Replicate uniforms.... Beats washing.... I'd like to be a bachlor then... Never have to wash a thing.
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
We saw crew members walking around in these fancy T-shirts that they never had before. They must be hotter than hell with all the layers they have to wear.
In Macrocosm, Janeway went through her uniform top, her turtleneck, possibly the t-shirt, and her tank top that she ended up in. She presumably had some kind of bra on under that. Talk about layering.
------------------ "A gathering of Angels appeared above my head. They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said..." -Styx
Yeah, the pyjamas-stylee is out, why can't they have pants and tunics...Even if they have to tug them. It'd be like wickid. Aaiii? (watched Ali G when I was in England)
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