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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
In the Star Trek: TNG episode Too Short A Season, the Enterprise transports famed Federation negotiator Adm. Mark Jameson to Mordan IV to negotiate the release of 20 Embassy hostages. Jameson negotiated a release of starliner hostages from Mordan IV 45 years earlier, and the planet is just recovering from a 40 year civil war.

Jameson's renown as a negotiator came after, as Commanding Officer of the USS Gettysburg, he negotiated the Mordan IV hostages' freedom -- something which two previous Federation negotiators had failed to do (and paid for with their lives). Jameson reveals to Picard that he did not in fact negotiate (he falsified the reports to the Federation) -- in reality, he gave the hostage taker, Kordas (who is holding the hostages this time, too), weapons to defeat his enemies. To balance out the Prime Directive, he gave the same weapons to Kordas' enemies: and began a four decade civil war.

But that's not what this thread is about. Jameson is identified two ways in this episode that intrigue me.

First, he is identified as being the commander of the USS Gettysburg when he negotiated this release.

Second, he is identified as ranking "Commander" (not Captain) when he negotiated this release.

So, Commander Mark Jameson, captain of the USS Gettysburg, becomes our first canonical incident of someone ranking lower than "captain" yet commanding a Starship.

And, anyone know what class Gettysburg is? (Or was?)

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
 
Actually, in the wet-navy, anyone who commands a vessel is her "Captain", but he is also her "Commanding Officer" - in other words her "Commander". This might just be a case of semantic-oops.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Gettysburg was a Constellation. This syncs in with Picard getting command of Stargazer when he did; Picard may have been promoted from LT to LCDR (the nominal "minimal" command rank) & he simply advanced on the ship from there.

I never thought it uncommon that "lesser" vessels had "lesser-ranked" COs; no point in wasting a full 4-pipper on command of a freighter or tanker when a 1�-pipper will do. Similarly, I'm sure smaller scout & destroyer ships have LCDRs or CDRs as their COs just like today's modern navies. Indeed, two of my characters/soulbonds are "mere" CDRs & have commands of their own on small ships.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Kordas refered to him as "Commander Mark Jameson", so I presume that to mean the rank, not a description of Jameson's duties at the time. While I agree that he would've had the title of "captain" aboard the Gettysburg, that does not mean he had the rank.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Or, perhaps the Captain of the Gettysberg was killed in the original incedent and Jameson was in command when he resolved the situation.

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Posted by Right on :
 
Actually, I don't think that would happen, frankly. I don't think I've seen this episode since it first aired (fourteen years ago?) but do you think Starfleet would send a recently promoted first officer to conduct negotiations on a world where two hostage negotiators had been killed?

I find it far more likely that Jameson WAS the captain of the Gettysburg, but he probably had a history of being a good negotiator. This incident merely helped his already good reputation.

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