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Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
 
Anyone have the lyrics to that battle song they always sing?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
As it appeared in the closed captioning of the DS9 ep where Worf and Kor sang it while drinking:

ej im-ta fey de-ja i
ejadahk-so-tas ghos va skral byteek
empa jaj law-moch jaj-push
jaj kahless molor-migh hokh chew-koo

 
Posted by MeGotBeer (Member # 411) on :
 
You could always ask Mark Okrund. He wrote the damn language, didn't he ... ?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Well, this doesn't seem to match w/ the language the way Okrand created it. For example, there should be no letter 'k'. I'm guessing this is how it was in the script, and that that was written out phonetically for the actors. Some things to match up a little, so the writer may actually have based it on Okrand's Klingonese. It'll just take some work to figure it out.

[ August 04, 2001: Message edited by: TSN ]


 
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
 
That doesn't sound like the right song... I'm surprised no one here speaks Klingon.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Well, that's the song Worf and Kor sang on DS9, and the HoloDoc sang on VOY. It's the only one I know of that's appeared more than once...
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
"That doesn't sound like the right song... I'm surprised no one here speaks Klingon."

I'm surprised anyone can speak Klingon without realising that their life is a lie.

We're the cool forum, remember.

"K"'s have been used for phonetic translations of Klingon before. Qu'on'os being translated as "Kronos", for example.

Anyway, what's "Klingon" in Klingon?

[ August 05, 2001: Message edited by: PsyLiam ]


 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Something like Thlingan, IIRC.
 
Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
 
Do not be fooled, the first consonant is a lateral fricative!
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Aren't they all?
 
Posted by MeGotBeer (Member # 411) on :
 
I feel very sorry for people who actually learned how to speak Thlingon.
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Don't. Multilingualism enriches your life and improves your communications skills. I had to learn an even less useful language at school, namely Swedish...

Back to the topic: I think the battle song from DS9 "Soldiers of the Empire" is nicely written down in Keith DeCandido's book "Diplomatic Implausibility". At least, there's one battle song there. Wasn't this one first used in TNG "Birthright"? I don't have the book at hand now, but unless you get it from some other source, I might type the lyrics for you at the end of the week.

Timo Saloniemi
 


Posted by pIn'a' Sov (Member # 293) on :
 
Ah, and let�s see, finnish is useful how? When drinking vodka and having knifefights in the sauna?
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
I always like to remember that I have a friend named Joey Chu whose name means "initiate transport" or something like that. Jo-ii chu I believe it was spelt. 8)
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Here's what DeCandido wrote in his book. This is supposedly in original Klingon, with the native letters replaced by their accepted Latin counterparts, and not just a phonetic rendition. Be warned that about half the l-like letters there are in fact capital i's, although this stupid font doesn't differentiate:

Qoy qeylIs puqloD. Qoy puqbe'pu'.
yoHbogh matlhbogh je SuvwI'.
Say'moHchu' may''Iw. maSuv manong 'ej maHoHchu'.

nI'be'yInmaj 'ach wovqu'.
batlh maHeghbej 'ej yo' qIjDaq vavpu'ma' DImuv.
pa' reH maSuvtaHqu'.
mamevQo'. maSuvtaH. ma'ov.

And here's the translation:

Hear! Sons of Kahless. Hear! Daughters, too.
The blood of battle washes clean
the warrior brave and true.
We fight, we love, and then we kill.
Our lives burn short and bright.
Then we die with honor and join our fathers
in the Black Fleet where we battle forever,
battling on through the eternal fight.

Interesting to hear that the Black Fleet, a John M. Ford concept, is actually a canonical fact now... In any case, this is not the drinking song of Worf and Kor - that song seems to tell about Kahless and Molor instead of going to battle, and I haven't seen it written down anywhere. This does, however, seem to be the song from "Birthright" and "Soldiers of the Empire".

Timo Saloniemi

[ August 08, 2001: Message edited by: Timo ]


 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
quote:
Hear! Sons of Kahless. Hear! Daughters, too

Nice to hear the Klingons have embraced political correctness.
 


Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
That sounds very Russian. Many aspects of Klingon culture always have to me. Compare that song to some of the ones from, say, Sergei Eisenstien's 1938 classic propaganda film "Aleksandr Nevsky"...

"Arise you Russian people
in a just battle, in a fight to the death:
arise, you people free and brave
defend our fair native land!"
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Except that that song tells the Russians to fight for Russia. Klingons just fight because they like it. :-)

What I posted is definitely the song that Worf and Kor sang. I copied it off of the closed-captioning back when the episode first aired, and I still have it written down.
 


Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
 
Thanks Timo.
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
Um.. you mean we're not allowed to speak Klingon here?

oh well

The Klingon language is called tlhIngan Hol

and transporter is spelled joHwI'

burn me now, i'm a sad little klingon speaker
 


Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
"Um.. you mean we're not allowed to speak Klingon here?"

You're not allowed to speak any artificially constructed language that sounds stupid and which no-one understands. That includes Klingon, Minbari, and French.
 


Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
I agree on two out of three..

franSngan petaQ..
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
How about Esperanto? "Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston? Lausajne estas rano en mia bideo!"
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
Wow.. thats just creepy..

when is SHatner's lost esperanto movie coming out on DVD?
 


Posted by mrneutron (Member # 524) on :
 
Shatner's esperanto language performance in INCUBUS is available now on DVD.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s244incubus.html

http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=720917527420
 


Posted by Phelps (Member # 713) on :
 


THE KLINGON SONG

Am G Am
ej im-ta fey de-ja i
G C E7
ejadahk-so-tas ghos va skral byteek
Am G C
empa jaj law-moch jaj-push
Dm Am E7 Am
jaj kahless molor-migh hokh chew-koo


[ September 24, 2001: Message edited by: Phelps ]


 
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
 
quote:
Nice to hear the Klingons have embraced political correctness.

Political Correctness probably doesnt apply to the Klingon culture, since the concept is purely human.
 




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