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Posted by Phelps (Member # 713) on :
 
Still yawning from seeing half the movie, will watch the rest tomorrow.

There are tweaks here and there, modified scenes we've heard about (the old versions are still available on the second disc for comparison). Nevertheless, all the changes can't change the fact that TMP is a yawn, a movie in which the characters are drowning in the glitter of technology and special effects. It's a complete reverse of TOS, where the tech looked cheesy and forced one to focus on the characters.

I watched the second (extras) disc fully, where the documentaries give a great coverage of the entire Phase II situation, the making of TMP and of the Director's Edition. We see *actual Phase II test footage* of Xon and crewmembers walking around in Engineering, glimpsed earlier in "The Art of Star Trek" and "The Making of Star Trek: Phase II." It's the closest we'll come to getting a sense of what the series would have looked like. We see the folks from Foundation Imaging as they're unloading the eight-foot Enterprise from its crate, and some of the changes they made are explained in detail. Their work is truly great, and I commend them highly.

A high point of the DVD is the scene-specific text commentary by Mike Okuda -- I hope the uninvited viewers will now realize just how much complexity there is to the Star Trek universe. Mike is explaining warp factors while the Enterprise is going to warp, saying when the drive was invented and such -- it really helps liven up the movie, kinda like a sports commentary. What's really new, however, is the audio commentary by Robert Wise, Doug Trumbull and other folks -- it gives an insight on how the individual scenes and effects were produced, and I have yet to hear all of it.

Of great interest to me as a musician was the part of the second documentary where Jerry Goldsmith is talking about the creation of the Enterpise inspection theme music, which ultimately ended up in the TNG main title. We're shown the sequence with an earlier stage of that music, which Robert Wise denounced as lacking a theme and reminding him of sailing ships. And then, we see the same scene with the familiar version.

This Enterprise inspection scene is the *only* human scene in that movie. The Enterprise is the *only* human character there. The rest of the movie -- don't show it to non-Trekkie friends. We, however, will have plenty of fun dissecting the audio commentaries, Mike Okuda's commentaries, behind-the-scenes documentaries, and new/old scenes.

[ November 04, 2001: Message edited by: Phelps ]


 
Posted by Phelps (Member # 713) on :
 
I think this should really go in the TMP dvd forum, though. Please delete the thread. Thanks!

[ November 04, 2001: Message edited by: Phelps ]


 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
We have a forum just for the TMP DVD? We're really getting specific, aren't we...

*moves to General Discussion*

Oh, wait. I can't do that. Bugger.
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
But I can! I have the power!
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Oh, so Michael Knight was too frivilous a person for you to remember, but you can quote from He-Man?

Tsk. And double tsk.
 


Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
TSN got the powerup and won the game!

I'll get ST:TMP-DC simply because.

But you're right, it's a long sloooooooooow movie and nothing can change that.

It reminds me of the movie The Andromeda Strain in which all we see are a scientists in a lab spending the entire movie trying to figure out what's going on.
 


Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I ain't wasting my money on something I'll never watch.
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
Like those grammar videos
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Liam: There was nothing to "remember" about Michael Knight. I've never seen an episode of "Knight Rider" in my life.

And I wasn't quoting He-Man. Did he ever say that? I used to watch the show, but I honestly don't remember much of anything from it. His dog turned into a lion, and he fought Skeletor. That's pretty much it.
 


Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
His cowardly tiger turned brave.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
See what I mean?!
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
It was green, too.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
I bought the DVD today. Huzzah! I haven't got the chance to watch it yet, but...huzzah!
 
Posted by Phelps (Member # 713) on :
 
Make a lot of coffee.

[ November 06, 2001: Message edited by: Phelps ]


 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Hooray. Yes.

And, Mr I think the Powerpuff Girls is shit and I smell of wee, "I Have The Power" was a quote much associated with He-Man, hence my confusion as to thinking you were quoting it. Smelly-wee-smelling man. Ha!

His pet was called "Cringer" and "Battle-cat", depending.
 


Posted by Phelps (Member # 713) on :
 
TSN, it goes like this:

Prince Adam pulls a sword out of nowhere, holds it "aloft", and yells "By the POWAH of GRAY-skullllllll!"

The sword lights up like a Christmas sparkler and beams Adam in front of Castle Grayskull, which has a thunderstorm and a lot of lightning going on. In the background we hear a chorus chanting:

"HE-MAN....ta na na na na naa...HE-MAN...ta na na na na na...na..."

Adam disappears in a flash and He-Man appears, who looks exactly like Adam barring a tan, pink tights, pink furry underwear (replaced with brown furry underwear), and any clothes except for his boots and a chest armor with a nuclear hazard sign.

Now, with the lightning and everything still behind him, He-Man grasps the blade with his left hand, his right hand holding the sword by the handle, pulls it closer to himself and yells:

"I....HAAAVE...THE POWAAAHHH!!!!!"

Depending on whether Cringer is around or not, we may see He-Man sending out a pulse with his sword that scales up Cringer like a Bird of Prey, and gives him a saddle and a fierce looking head armor, plus some courage.

Since just about everyone on Eternia looks the same way, nobody ever realizes that Adam is He-Man. He-Man defeats the evil Skeletor, and that's the end of story.

[ November 06, 2001: Message edited by: Phelps ]


 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
The plots were also slightly more ridiculous than your average episode of TAS.

Skeletor was also almost disturbingly camp. Still, at least he wasn't British.

You also forgot to add that He-Man also had lots of reverb on his voice, further fooling people through his cunning disguise.

Go here. Laugh.

http://www.x-entertainment.com/messages/569.html

Go on. You know you want to.
 


Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
I bow unto your linkage, Liam. Excellent fun.
 


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