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Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :

In this weeks episode sevel put a list of crewmen who had died

any body got a screen cap?

Posted by Individual 5748 on :

I don't have a screen cap, but I do remember Seven mentioning in dialog Ensign Marie Kaplan (from "Future's End" and "Unity"), Ensign Lyndsay Ballard (from "Ashes to Ashes"), and Crewman Timothy Lang (from "Warhead"). I couldn't make out many names on screen but I do remember seeing Ballard and Kaplan. Interesingly, Lang's death is actually news, I believe. I don't remember seeing him killed, anyway.

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Wasn't Lang killed during the Captain Ransom/ USS Equinox battle?

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

What about the crewmember killed in "Innocence" (On the shuttle with Tuvok).

What about the Three crewmembers killed during the events surrounding "Living Witness"

What about the guy who was killed by the big lizard in "Basics" - Hogan

and Michael Jonas

who else... ahhhhhhhh Seska...

wish they would mention:

Golwot the Bolian woman...
Carey
Chell
Hanley
the Delaney sisters...

there are so many.

What happened to Rollins

Glad they showed Ayala again. (I just saw the video with Spirit Folk and Ashes to Ashes)

Andrew

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Posted by colin (Member # 217) on :

There were eight names-four to the left, four to the right. With each name, there was red writing. This may give stardate of death for each killed character.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Actually, I think there were five on each side. On the left were the three Seven mentioned, then a commander (WTF?!) and a lieutenant commander. The other side had a couple LCs, a couple ensigns, and something else.

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

That's one of my gripes with Voyager, they never work on their supporting characters such as Carey or Vorik. O'Brien went from a nameless redshirt to a main character on DS9. Damar, from Dukat's lackey to leader of Cardassia giving his life to overthrow the Dominion.

As for the death list, since I don't want to be too off-topic, the LtCommander could of been Cavitt since Tuvok and Chakotay are the only LCDR's on Voyager (as far as I know).

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Posted by Davok (Member # 143) on :

What about Voyager's Chief Medical Officer who died in the pilot? And the Betazoid CONN officer... what was her name again?

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

Stadi, and iirc she was a lieutenant.

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

What episode were the Delany sisters killed at?

Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

How about the first officer killed in the pilot? He must have been a commander.

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Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :

Mickey_T: I don't think that the Delaney sisters were killed, only that Andrew wants to see them again or have their names mentioned to fulfil some sort of wierd fantasy that he has.

I'd imagine.

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Posted by Galen (Member # 72) on :

Voyager death toll as I have it

Caretaker:
LTCDR Cavit
LT Stadi
LTCDR ? CMO
unnamed chief engineer
unnamed astrogator
unnamed transporter chief
unnamed Vulcan nurse

Faces:
LT Peter Durst

Alliances:
Crewman Kurt Bendera
Two unnamed crewmen

Investigations:
Crewman Michael Jonas

Meld:
Crewman Frank Darwin

Innocence:
Ensign Bennet

Basics Part II:
Seska
Ensign Hogan
Ensign Lon Suder
unnamed blue shirt

Unity:
Ensign Marie Kaplan

Warlord:
Ensign Martin

Scientific Method:
unnamed crewman

Killing Game Part II:
unnamed crewman

Living Witness:
Three unnamed crewmen

One:
unnamed crewman

Latent Image:
Ahni Jetal

Ashes to Ashes:
Ensign Lyndsey Ballard

Equinox:
Crewman Timothy Lang
One unnamed crewman

P.S. Kind of odd that a ship of only 141+ people has two Ashmores, two Kaplans, and a set of twins.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Lot of Kaplans.

Heh.

I wrote a story once, my only VOY story. It takes place before the ship leaves DS9, and it revolves around the crew looking for a Maquis saboteur.

The saboteur turns out to be Operations Chief Lt. Desmond KAPLAN.

Damn me.

Oh well.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

LOL! re: Gaseous Anomaly

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Posted by Individual 5748 on :

These crewmembers were recently posted at Roll Call. How he got them, beats me. But here they are:

Commander J. Bartlett
Ensign Amanda J. Crag
Lieutenant J. Ewing
Lt Commander L McLaren
Ensign Charles Ming
Lieutenant I. Seaman
Lt Commander T. Zielen

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

What happened to the Crazy Vulcan who tried to knock over B'elanna?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I think "knock up" is the euphamism you're looking for.

As for the character, Vorik, he is presumably still around.

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

All those Lt.Cmdrs and Cmdrs in the "Imperfection" KIA list must be initial casualties from "Caretaker". How else could such high ranks be explained?

What was the rank of the CMO? Did he have 3 or 2.5 pips? It would make the most sense if he was a full 3-pipper, because then it wouldn't matter that he outranked Cavit - he would be outside the chain of command. The two 2.5-pippers could be the Chief Engineer and perhaps the Chief of Ops, neither of whom was seen dead or alive.

If instead the CMO had 2.5 pips, it would be a bit weird for either the CEO or the COO to outrank Cavit. If I had to take a pick, I'd choose the CEO, since he/she would not spend all that much time on the bridge and thus wouldn't step on Cavit's toes.

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Posted by Nemesis (Member # 255) on :

After reviewing "Caretaker" again, i could see 2,5 pips at the Doctors collar, that means he has the Rank of Lt. Comdr.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

You know ... a thought here ... maybe the CEO was just there because it was a new ship? I.E., a higher ranking officer just in case something unexpected went wrong (only assigned temporarily -- first couple of missions), and therefore out of the COC?

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Posted by Toadkiller (Member # 425) on :

Even if assigned there only for the "three hour tour" he'd still be in the COC. Otherwise it wouldn't really be a chain....

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

COO? COC?

CO = Commanding Officer, the correct term for a ship captain not CEO.

XO = Executive Officer, first officer.

COO is Chief of Operations I take it? So what's COC, don't recall hearing that one before.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Well, just looking at the context, I'd assume "COC" is meant to stand for "Chain Of Command"...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

CEO is likely to stand for Chief Engineering Officer. Maybe.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Sorry, I did mean COC to stand for "Chain of Command"

Not that he wouldn't be in the chain of command, but that his position in the COC would be by his actual duties, and not rank (otherwise he'd outrank Cavit).

TNG "The Arsenal of Freedom" ... Ltjg LaForge is in command, despite the fact that the CEO is a higher ranking officer (and a prick, to boot)

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

To be on the safe side, the full Commander could also have been a visiting scientist, aboard for taking measurements of the Badlands during what was supposed to be a milk run. You know, go in, grab the Maquis, get out, admire the scenery. A visiting scientist would be likely to carry Starfleet rank (on the E-D, every one of them did, unless he/she/it was a non-Fed alien), yet would play no role in the ship's chain of command.

I know the ship wasn't exactly stocked with extra personnel - no counselor, for example - but a single extra astrophysicist doesn't sound impossible. And that single expert would probably have been of senior rank and expertise, to compensate for his/her lack of staff.

Timo Saloniemi