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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

You all know what I'm talking about...the green computer screen that Data looks at at very high speed, in "Conspiracy" and a few other episodes. There were several images that flash on the screen for nanoseconds. Does anyone have any screenshots of this, or clearer shots of ones we've already seen? Some examples were:

-a refit Constitution class labeled as U.S.S. Constitution NCC-1700;

-an Orion Wanderer-class ship from FASA;

-a Lotus Flower-class neutronic fuel carrier from FASA;

-a parrot with (supposedly) Gene Roddenberry's head;

-what looks to be a space station, maybe from FASA;

-a TNG shuttlecraft.

Am I missing anything?

Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

quote:
-a refit Constitution class labeled as U.S.S. Constitution NCC-1700

Actually that picture is from FJ's Starfleet TM.

I've made a couple of screenshots (The Naked Now, Datalore, Conspiracy).

http://home.arcor.de/spike730/misc/displays/

[ May 21, 2002, 12:27: Message edited by: Spike ]

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

This is very disturbing.

What are these:

http://home.arcor.de/spike730/misc/displays/conspiracy_001.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/spike730/misc/displays/conspiracy_005.jpg

And what's the story behind those little aliens?

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

LOL...I never noticed the little com badge on the bird before.

Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

Spike: Thanks! I don't think I could have asked for clearer 'caps, although it would have been nice to be able to read the print, but it's too illegible.

quote:
What are these:

http://home.arcor.de/spike730/misc/displays/conspiracy_001.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/spike730/misc/displays/conspiracy_005.jpg

The first one was the one I thought was a space station. It also appears in STII. The second one is a mystery. It looks like two Voyager aeroshuttles back-to-back, but of course that's not what it is.

[ May 21, 2002, 15:06: Message edited by: Dukhat ]

Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :

Notice also the caption under the bird reads "THE GREAT BIRD OF THE GALAXY"...

--Jonah

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

The second pictures looks like your typical modular cargo ship to me.

Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

Considering that the other picture is also of a cargo ship (the Lotus Flower), and that it's only a top view like this one, I'm inclined to agree with you, However, I've skimmed through Shipschematics trying to find this design, but so far have had no luck. I figured it might have been another FASA design, but who knows...

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Um, ship thread? Here?

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

1. the original link doesn't work.

2. The bird... hmmm heh - maybe it is a captain's pet out there... maybe he like dressing it up. Maybe he's like some sort of pirate! [Wink]

Maybe it's an emblem something like the 'workbee' and the 'defiant with teeth' pics from the DS9 tech manual.

3. the first linked picture - I thought 'space station' but, if it has also been seen in TWoK it doesn't fit my second suggestion that it looks like the captain's yacht with some sort of nacelle above it.

4. The last pic - looks like two ships close together. They're not depicting the gravity plating are they?

Just had a thought - maybe the Conspiracy Aliens replaced a captain with a bird as a way of disrupting Starfleet! [Wink]

Andrew

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

It was a pre-refit Connie labelled NCC-1700

http://home.arcor.de/spike730/misc/displays/datalore_007.jpg

Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :

using my special enhance routine.. the second pic up there seems to have address lines,


TO:        CAPT. XXX(X?) XXXX(X?)
           USS XXXXXXXXXX NCC-(4?)XXXX
.
FROM:      ADMIRAL GREGORY QUINN
           XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX 
.
SUBJECT:   XXXXXX (SHIP?) XXXXX XXXX(X?)
.
STARDATE:  (4?)XXXX.X
.

Whew.. i actually got a lot of that.. not. For the first line, it looked like it said 'CAPT JIM KIRK' and 'USS ENTERPRISE', but that seems unlikely to be followed by a five digit registry.

[edit.. further examination.. i realized the second line (the FROM field) must be a rank/name/name/ and stared at it, revealing Quinn's name (foreshadowing he would be the villain.. thats why i like Okudagrams! [Big Grin]

)]

[ May 22, 2002, 00:06: Message edited by: CaptainMike ]

Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :

That parrot looks like Dubya. . .

Posted by Fedaykin Supastar (Member # 704) on :

....u know u're right - kinda....
maybe its an omen!

haha

neways, does that mean that there is some bird-wit-head thing [in some form or other] that is CANON? haha

lol

sorry i have nothing meaningful to offer

Buzz

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I think it has Gene Roddenberry's face, actually, which would be consistant with the in-joke.

[ May 22, 2002, 12:19: Message edited by: Sol System ]

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

That's probably an excerpt from a Starfleet study on a strange ancient cult on planet Fanboy XXVII

Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

Or an example of late 22nd century surreal art.

Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :

What is this: http://home.arcor.de/spike730/misc/displays/nakednow_009.jpg

Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

That is an Orion Wanderer from FASA.

However, as far as we know, Okuda just stole the design out of one of FASA'a manuals, and the fine print actually reads that the ship is the Hokule'a class U.S.S. Tripoli.

[ May 22, 2002, 13:28: Message edited by: Dukhat ]

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

wha?

Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :

Looks like we're having a canon design for the Hokule'a!

Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

Uh, no. I didn't say that.

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

just noticed that the side view is flipped. Or FASA's topview was turned into a bottomview by Okuda.

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

I think Dukat meant that it's possible Okuda labeled it as something other than an Orion Wanderer in the fine print. There's not really any way to read it though.

My guess is he picked the Tripoli for his hypothesis because Data served aboard the Tripoli (or was that the ship that found him?) and it would make sense that that info would come up in the data search.

Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

Tripoli found him. He served on Trieste. Knew how slow that ship was.

Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

FYI: http://home.arcor.de/spike730/misc/displays/datalore_002.jpg These aliens are supposedly traders encountered by an early Earth Ship on the Rigel Trading Planet. They're by Sternbach and come from the Spaceflight Chronology.

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

Any names for this species?

Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

Nope, no species names associated with the little aliens. The spiny-looking one is just described by a wide-eyed Earth officer as looking like a cross between a porcupine and an amoeba as it attempts to sell a diamond as large as a fist.

You should all go out and get yourselves copies of this great book. All noncanon and runover by subsequent canon, but it makes good reading. It also contains countless side-view schematics of ships not depicted in the full-color paintings posted at various websites. It's the most imaginative Trek ship book I know.
www.bookfinder.com lists dozens of copies at all prices. I bought one for a friend recently for only $10.

Edit: Ok, not exactly dozens, but around 10. I had a hell of a time trying to find this book about 10 years ago. I Didn't manage to get one until I searched was on the web.

[ May 29, 2002, 17:16: Message edited by: Masao ]

Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

"Book?"

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

quote:
These aliens are supposedly traders encountered by an early Earth Ship on the Rigel Trading Planet. They're by Sternbach and come from the Spaceflight Chronology.

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

I've made some caps from "The Last Outpost" @ http://harry2002.host.sk/dvdump/tng/lastoutpost/page_01.htm , they're again the same pics.

Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :

ooh.. interesting stuff.. first thoughts:

the Connie-refit cutaway looks to be reused from Okuda's ST:IV graphics.. still has the old wide font at th bottom of it as he designed the movie era screens..

theres a FASA klingon ship.. k-23 if i recall...

he let a bunch of stuff in the top screen upside down youll note.. why? [oh yeah.. the old excuse ' i never thought anyone would put this on DVD and microsopically examine every frame'.. what jury would buy that? just like trying to explain all the quasi uniforms in TMP]

that first exterior shot would be the aborted attempt to show the articulation of the Ferengi ship's moving wings (the shots were scrapped when the moving parts crushed all the neon within the ship, requiring the lighting to be rebuilt)

[ May 30, 2002, 04:03: Message edited by: CaptainMike ]

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

If you look at the LCARS borders and text alignment surrounding the upper display, you'll that's also flipped. I suspect it's the from same footage, but flipped.

Posted by pIn'a' Sov (Member # 293) on :

CaptainMike - Klingon FASA ship K-23??? What is this, and are you sure? It looks like a standard D-7 or K'tinga to my untrained eye.

Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :

hmmm. yes.. wel.. um... it looked k23 on my first glance, but enhacing it it seems to be D7.. i was mislead since that particular drawing (from FASA anyway) seems to have a lot of etail rawn in on the centerline of the secondary hulll that was k23 shaped.. oh well

Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :

This is a Starships thread. You will find it there.