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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
So the saucer section spins, making the ship look even more like a giant pizza cutter.

We meet the ship's CMO, so far the only likeable character still alive.

We're supposed to believe that the Klingons from Episode 2 spent 6 months aboard the crippled sarcophagus ship adrift and starving. Neither their Klingon allies nor Starfleet bothered to show up to retrieve the cloaking device. Well, at least Starfleet was there to get the telescope. And they ate Georgiou, those bastards!

Security chief Landry bites the dust (second red shirt to do so) and I have to wonder how she survived even that long. That was probably one of the dumbest ways to die in Trek history. At least we know what they meant when they said it was going to be like "Game of Thrones".

Capt. Lorca, the next Rudy Ransom or not?

Lots of new aliens among the Discovery crew but I'd rather like to see some familiar ones instead of only mentioning them (like the Andorians in E03 and the Tellarites in E04).

Don't understand why they have perfectly solid 3d mirros, but shitty translucent Holo-communication.

A new UFP seal is introduced with two very human-looking silhouettes like the one in Franz Joseph's Starfleet Technical Manual.

Even the pillow cases have a Starfleet logo on them.

A new Admiral rank insignia is introduced with 3 gold laurel leaves and 1 black on each side of the arrowhead. Adm. Anderson's had 4 gold laurel leaves.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
The Glenn hit a "wall" of Hawking radiation, so black holes might play a role in the Spore Drive(TM). The horizontal spin of the saucer and vertical spin of the ship at least explains why the Glenn crew looked so deformed, like the inertial dampeners failed and they got crushed by centrifugal forces.

The tardigrade must have some sort of teleport ability. We still don't know how it got on the Glenn, just that it didn't breach the outer hull to get inside.

Lorca's maneuver at the end look cooled but didn't make a lot of sense, especially on a planet with gravity. He waits for the Birds of Prey to get close to the Discovery and then jumps. At that moment, what I assume are torpedoes are jettisoned out of the ship, where they hang in the air for a few seconds before they start to move under their own power and destroy the Klingons.
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
I really like the interior of the Discovery, it reminds me of the white walls and polished-steel details of the Excelsior. Also, the windows are placed high in the rooms which makes every room feel taller.

As for atmosphere, I like that Burnham doesn't feel safe in the least while being on the ship, she reminds me of Jim Hawkins on the Hispaniola. I am glad that this show is darker than earlier Trek shows, if every ship is always a calm safe-space then seeking out danger becomes momentary and quickly-averted. DS9 had an appeal in that the station was home to all sorts of dangerous elements.
 
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
 
Mars, I think that maneuver was to keep the Discovery and its spore drive technology somewhat secret.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Michael has grown on me slightly, as she was the only one showing signs of an actual correct Starfleet mentality this time around. Nice to see Stamets choke back his ego a little & allow the scientist to bleed through, too. But good riddance to Landry. And Lorca–still a psycho.

My favorite character so far is still dead, though.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
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Originally posted by shikaru808:
Mars, I think that maneuver was to keep the Discovery and its spore drive technology somewhat secret.

I understand the reason behind the maneuver, it's the part with the torpedoes that seems strange to me. Where did they launch from and how do they work? They seemed to automatically lock on the Klingon ships once Discovery departed, something not typical of traditional photon torpedoes. Of course, this could be a quirk of this re-imagined/not-re-imagined Prime Universe, or they could have been (anti-grav) mines.
 
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
 
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Originally posted by Mars Needs Women:
quote:
Originally posted by shikaru808:
Mars, I think that maneuver was to keep the Discovery and its spore drive technology somewhat secret.

I understand the reason behind the maneuver, it's the part with the torpedoes that seems strange to me. Where did they launch from and how do they work? They seemed to automatically lock on the Klingon ships once Discovery departed, something not typical of traditional photon torpedoes. Of course, this could be a quirk of this re-imagined/not-re-imagined Prime Universe, or they could have been (anti-grav) mines.
Good point. Yeah unless they pushed the torpedoes out the airlock or shuttlebay, I don't see how they did that.
 
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
 
Animated gif of the spinny bits:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrekCore/status/919571429640884225/photo/1
 
Posted by becky (Member # 2187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mars Needs Women:
The Glenn hit a "wall" of Hawking radiation, so black holes might play a role in the Spore Drive(TM). The horizontal spin of the saucer and vertical spin of the ship at least explains why the Glenn crew looked so deformed, like the inertial dampeners failed and they got crushed by centrifugal forces.

The tardigrade must have some sort of teleport ability. We still don't know how it got on the Glenn, just that it didn't breach the outer hull to get inside.

Lorca's maneuver at the end look cooled but didn't make a lot of sense, especially on a planet with gravity. He waits for the Birds of Prey to get close to the Discovery and then jumps. At that moment, what I assume are torpedoes are jettisoned out of the ship, where they hang in the air for a few seconds before they start to move under their own power and destroy the Klingons.

The show itself kinda sucks. A lot of the technology bullshit is so far out there it's not even something you can remotely imagine as being real. There was a certain charm to the older series because you'd see stuff on the show and think "well, OK, maybe we'll see that in 50-100 years if we're lucky". Discovery is packed full of so much random crap you kinda look at it and go "uhhhh no, not gonna happen". It's like they decided to transition from futuristic-but-almost-plausible to outright space magic because that was easier to write.

Everything else feels like a bog standard Hollywood action movie with tons of CG. It's almost well done enough that it's generally watchable, but again, it isn't Star Trek. I don't find myself thinking about the implications of what's going in the show, in fact, I don't find myself thinking very much at all when I'm watching it. It's just kinda senseless action with the Star Trek name bolted on because OMG recognizable franchise.

I'm pretty sure it's going to get really old really fast (I'm already starting to get bored with it). Once they run out of inertia from the hype and name alone, the show is doomed.
 


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