(It's from a UPN press kit scanned at TrekToday.)

It would appear that the corridors have some sort of handholds... something to do with spotty artificial gravity?
 

The station would probably have floor gratings, and so on, steam rising from every place, lots of clutter, etc, so many ladders, and no turbolifts.

Hmm.......
 

That aside, I don't remember any line in the Chronology stating that AG was a 20th century invention.

The only other instance of this was the Cryosatellite, but either the producers just weren't thinking, or perhaps the Enterprise raised its shields around the satellite just enough for her AG to spill onto the smaller vessel. That might have been the case for the Botany Bay as well. Who knows?
 

If you could project a gravity field, then theoretically you'd only need 1 generator on a starship. Also, has there ever been a situation where the Enterprise is forced to leave the vicinity of a ship with a landing party on board?
 

--Jonah
 

I will have to check the investigation logs. Unless they have been tampered along with the torpedo records.
 

1990's
*Cryogenic satellites. No artificial gravity. (The gravity generated aboard the SS Birdseye was the consequence of the ship's rotation.)
*Satellites and probes (Voyager VI) and warships of the US Navy (USS Enterprise) have fission nuclear engines.
*Era of space shuttles (Enterprise OV-101, Challenger OV-99).

2000 to 2030
*Ships (Aries 4, unnamed ship) are sent to explore Mars and Saturn. They carry no or very limited artificial gravity and are propelled by ion propulsion.
*Satellites and probes (Nomad) are using fission nuclear energy.
*Era of space shuttles and stations.

2030 to 2060
*Ships (Charbydis, Jacob) are using fusion nuclear energy to explore and leave the solar system.
*World War III
*Development of the predecessors to the DY family of ships.

2060 to 2113
*First warp flight (Phoenix).
*Gravity generators are employed for the first time on ships, like the SS Valiant.
*Ships and probes (SS Valiant, Friendship One) are sent to explore areas of deep space.
*DY-100 Class ships are first employed. These ships built in orbital space are sent to explore the outer solar system with their crews in cryo-stasis. (A journey for this class of vessel is measured in years from this planet to that planet. And a ship could reach a nearby star. Unfortunately, the odds were leaned heavily against the success of such a mission.)
*Last global war-Eugenics War. Four years of fighting. At end, the SS Botany Bay, under the command of Khan, leaves Earth with rudimentary warp drive and artificial gravity.
*Advancements in impulse drive.

2113 to 2161
*Humans colonize space using DY, RT, and BB families of ships. SS Mariposa of the DY-500 class with registry NAR-7678 is such an example. These ships employ artificial gravity and pulse fusion engines. Some of the ships carry the NAR registry (SS Mariposa NAR-7678, SS Seattle NAR-18834), which is later reused under the auspices of the Federation (SS Vico NAR-18834).

2150's
Series-Enterprise.

Note: In the movie The Voyage Home, Spock says that nuclear power is used for the most part in nuclear war ships until the next century-the 21st. This information helps to date the Eugenics War to the 21st century for the SS Botany Bay is a nuclear powered space ship.

The movie First Contact established a period of time where the last global war could occur-the fifty years between 2063 and 2113. At or after 2113, the Earth is experiencing world governments, ex. European Hegemony. Less than forty years later, the Earth is governed by a single authority.

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"In the movie The Voyage Home, Spock says that nuclear power is used for the most part in nuclear war ships until the next century-the 21st. This information helps to date the Eugenics War to the 21st century for the SS Botany Bay is a nuclear powered space ship."

That makes no sense whatsoever. I someone said that sailing vessels were widely used up to the nineteenth century, and we know Columbus used sail-ships, does that mean he lived in the nineteenth century?
 

In the 1980's, according to Spock, nations are using fission nuclear power. This power is used extensively on warships, such as carriers.

Later, after the 1980's, there came fusion nuclear power. This form of nuclear power is used in space ships to help propel them to warp speeds.

This last statement is not proved until the second season of TNG with two facts, seen in Okudagrams. First, the engines of the Charbydis are Block 4 Fusion Nuclear Power engines. Later in the same season as the Charbydis, there is the example of the SS Mariposa NAR-7678 which had Pulse Fusion Engines.

And much later, the series Voyager gives a possible beginning date for fusion nuclear reactors. The Aries 4 is operational in the later 2020's with ion power reactors.

Given this information, the sequence of reactors is-chemical (Apollo, Space Shuttle) 1960's to early 21st century, ion power (Aries 4, unnamed Saturn mission) early 21st century to 2037, and (pulse) fusion (Charbydis, SS Botany Bay, SS Mariposa) 2037 to 2123.
 

Fundamental Trek law #1: Star Trek takes place in an alternate universe. Their space-tech advanced much more quickly than ours has.

--Jonah
 

I am using the available material that is present to the audience-the dialogue, the Okudagrams, etc.-and fitting the different pieces together. If a fact is not supported by other facts, I ignore that fact. For this discussion, I am ignoring the fact from "Dr. Bashir, I Presume?" that the Eugenics War occured in the 2170's. This is contradicted by the facts in "Up the Long Ladder" and First Contact that have the human civilization fusing into a single community in the early 22nd century and founding an united Earth in 2150.

I know that the war is supposed to occur in the early 1990's. This fact is not as important as the statement uttered by Spock that the war is the last global war. And the other facts-propulsion of the SS Botany Bay, distance traveled by the SS Botany Bay, other technology of the SS Botany Bay, etc. guide me to the conclusion that the Eugenics War occured in the late 21st century.

And I get the feeling that the discussion could be marching into a battlefield over canonicity vs. non-canonicity, this history vs. that history, etc. I have stated my interpretation of facts as presented by the franchise.

Let me be the first to return to the thread topic.

According to "Trials and Tribbleations", the corridors of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701 were designed for mass movement of people. Later, ships had their corridors narrowed as automation replaced the functions of crew members and there ended the need for mass movement of people.

This corridor of the new Enterprise indicates that the older ship doesn't need wide corridors for the crew to 'commute' to and from work and home. This could be an indication that the crew of this ship is smaller in size than the Enterprise of a hundred years later.

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When putting together Tech for Enterprise, TPTB will almost certainly be basing it on projections of what we'll have 100/125/150 (choose one) years from today-today and 40/65/110 years from Zef Cochrane and not what would have come about 100/125/150 years from the "actual" Trek canon's rendition of 2001 (artificial gravity and genetic supermen and widespread cryogenics). Given the fact that this is meant to make the show coherent to the 99.9% of the audience who'd rather not have it hit over their heads that the show takes place in any more an alternate universe than the one that, say, The West Wing or Frasier would take place in. (Even the most sceptical of TV watchers are OK with there being a different president in office to the one we have and the terms being offset 2 years, or a show being about a Seattle radio station that doesn't exist. But set up the West Wing with a backstory where the Vietnam War was fought in Libya instead and do a B-story about Bartlett finding a site for a Libyan War Veteran's Memorial and you're only going to make things irritating to the viewing audience.)

So, I personally wouldn't consider Enterprise's failing to acknowledge the fact that artificial gravity could be a 110/135/160 year-old technology high treason to the laws of canon. This is a universe, after all, where there can be cracks in event horizons (*cough* Parallax) and characters can suddenly change their appearance to look like a whole other person. (*cough* ST III)
 

"But set up the West Wing with a backstory where the Vietnam War was fought in Libya instead and do a B-story about Bartlett finding a site for a Libyan War Veteran's Memorial and you're only going to make things irritating to the viewing audience."

But, what if "The West Wing" were a spin-off from an older show (called, say, "Libya Trek", or something), which established that Libyan War. But then "The West Wing" comes along and decides to change it to the more reality-accurate Vietnam War. Wouldn't you expect people who watched and enjoyed "Libya Trek" to be a bit miffed when "The West Wing" makes references back to "Libya Trek" events, but places them in Vietnam instead of Libya?
 

"Actually sir, we've been just about everywhere."

"What? Already?"

"Well, the country is only 900 miles wide, and we've been driving around in these jeeps for months."