Just so long as it doesn't vanish in the pilot and get replaced by a robot version. . .
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
TNG has shown us that the only pets people have on ships are cats. And it's well known that Roddenberry explicitly said that Dogs do not exist anymore.
THEY ARE CHANGING CONTINUITY BY HAVING CANINES! FUCK YOU BERMAN YOU FUCKING FUCKER! IGNORE GENERATIONS AND AQIEL!
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Oh, great. Now Liam's gone nuts, too. What's the world coming to?
I'd be willing to bet that Porthos will be a large retriever of some sort. Maybe a golden or labrador retriever. I think a dog like that would fit in with what we know of Archer's personality. I really don't think he'll have a poodle or a Chihuahua or a miniature Schnauzer.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Don't worry about Psy, HE THINKS HE'S A FRIGGING STAND UP COMEDIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
He is a stand up comedian. Or at least, he seems to have that effect on people from time to time.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Speaking of animals, does anyone know that dolphins have gained sentience in the 24th-cenutry? There are some on the Enterprise-D, according to the Blueprints. They even have workstations!
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
I don't think it's ever been mentioned in Star Trek. But the blueprints to the Enterprise-D and the TNG Technical Manual both make mention of dolphin being employed in a navigation position. Whether that means they've been granted sentience is another matter.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
The dolphins have been mentioned once, in "The Perfect Mate", though they could have been in fishtanks for all the viewers knew. I don't see why they shouldn't be mentioned in the Trek Canon... After all, they are the second most intelligent species native to Earth, after the mice.
Mark
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Er...and...what about us, Mark? Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
I dunno, mice are pretty smart. The NASA-funded lab here at my college is training lab mice to build thermonuclear devices. Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
In "Yesterday's Enterprise", there is an intercom message for Dr. Joshua Kim to report to Cetecean Ops. Source: Rick Sternbach.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
While I'm agreed that Archer's more of a big dog guy, having a big drooling labrador romping down those cramped corridors would be a director's nightmare. A smaller dog, from a purely logical standpoint, would be a bit easier to work with. Now, the only small dogs that Hollywood has ever managed to not make all prissy and delicate have been terriers, but keeping in mind Mad about You and Frasier, might it be a bit retreadish?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Monkey: Go read the Hitchhiker's Trilogy. Don't come back 'til you do.
Going to Rigel and back at warp five, are they? I guess we don't need to worry about continuity, then. If that happens in the first episode, then, by the second episode, the Romulan War will be over, and the Federation will be four-and-a-half years old...
[ July 17, 2001: Message edited by: TSN ]
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
If keeping to Sternbach's warp scales was a continuity matter, then most everybody here would have given up on the franchise decades ago.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
A Sheltie would be nice, but...bias...yeah.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, they've messed up travel times before, but compressing what should be a 14.4-year round trip into a couple days? About the only time they've screwed up worse than that was ST5...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Hang on Tim. This is what's been pissing me off..
This was a thread that was, for better of worse, about Archer's dog. Then you post
"Going to Rigel and back at warp five, are they? I guess we don't need to worry about continuity, then. If that happens in the first episode, then, by the second episode, the Romulan War will be over, and the Federation will be four-and-a-half years old..."
What the hell does that have to do with the thread? It's posts like that which are making it impossible to discuss Enterprise without every single thread ending up on an argument about "The ship looking like the Akira" or "Continuity is fucked".
If you have a problem with the speeds, start a thread saying "Warp scale problems in Enterprise". Don't just randomly post it in other threads. Okay?
(Phew. I just told off an Admin. I might be dead in the morning. It was nice knowing you all.)
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
It was? Well, speak for yourself. 8)
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Hell, I used to piss him off daily, but look at me, I'm still here!
[Edit: Not that I don't still have the utmost respect and admiration for him...hehe ]
[ July 18, 2001: Message edited by: The Mighty Monkey of Mim ]
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Worship me.
No, I know it had wandered off into talking about animals and weirdness. I don't have a problem with threads wandering (since I'm responsible for it half the time), but really, the warp speed thing came out of nowhere. And since it's happening in pretty much every other Enterprise thread, it's beginning to annoy me.
Raargh!
That was me being annoyed.
Posted by HappyTarget (Member # 670) on :
Just a thought, but taking a pet of anykind into space on earths first major starship just seems odd to me. Think of what happenes when you have to take him out for exercise, and how would the dog "do his buisness" without a park or fire hydrant? I can picture it now, Ananamous (sp?) red shirt to level 4 section 3A, no, your not beaming down to the new planet, but you may wish you were! While I think that Archer would be a large dog kind of guy, most likely he'll get a small one because their easier to controll on set.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
One device: pooper-scooper.
Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
Thoughts of "Crimson Tide" and some poor seaman holding the leash for the skipper's dog while it pisses on a missile tube come to mind.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Liam: Did you read the article linked to in the first post? That's what the speeds have to do w/ this thread. I'm not going to start a new thread just for a single post to bitch about something. If I were bringing something up for discussion, I would.
Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
A dog onboard a starship isn't that bad. True Data had Spot for 7 years, but we've seen puppies on the Enterprise-D and Janeway has her dogs. Then again puppies are small and the Enterprise-D has that plant place and Janeway left her dogs with Mark. But I'm sure there will be a logical explaination to it.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I did go and read it, and recalled fond memories of the muckerhounds.
