The most common UAV today, in the U.S. Arsenal would be the Tomahawk GLCM (ground launched cruise missile). We've seen these missiles fly into Iraq and destroy targets with good accuracy.
My question is this: Why aren't their Star Fleet UAVs? I do remember in BoBW the little rounded missiles that flew towards the Borg Cube and were destroyed, but other than that, nothing else. Wouldn't it be more wise to make a ship, a smaller ship with no life support (which would save like 50% of the ship's room) that is more expendable, since there are no lives. These ships could be extremly powerful with massive weaponry for enemies like the Borg or Dominion. Why do we only see large "capital ships" with all the major Alpha Quadrant superpowers?
One more thing, I would think that the Borg would definantly see quite an advantage in a vehicle with no drones. After all, the ships are linked to the collective. These ships could be scouts and defensive ships.
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[This message was edited by Baloo on March 15, 1999.]
But I do have a few thoughts. First, regarding the Borg, drones are an integral part of their technology. Cybernetic systems have a much greater reaction time then organic minds or computers seperately. And they are expendable.
We have seen autonomous vehicles once or twice. The Cardassian "dreadnought" for instance. And we know that the Federation has a whole host of probes and the like. It's just not something that's very exciting to see onscreen, for the most part. Though we have seen them. The orbital defense systems in "Tears of the Prophets" for instance. Sure, an attack with automated units would have been less costly in terms of life, but could such units have come up with the solution that sentient beings did? And if you made the computers sentient, as the UFP certainly appears capable of doing, it gets pretty sticky morally to use them as cannon fodder.
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As for Starfleet's use of UAV's, they do employ several different types of probes which are most commonly used when the crew is looking for something or wanting to keep tabs on an enemy (or potential enemy for that matter). Even the photon torpedos are a type of UAV because they are autonomous once they are launched and can be programmed to fly probably just about any type of flight profile to its target.
Back to the present, UAV's could effectively be employed today, even with current technological standards; its just that people (corporations, military) aren't convinced enough to put down the big $$$$ necessary to field such equipment. The point is that there is no doubt that Starfleet tech. would be capable of producing effective UAV systems.....no need for complicated AI, just tell them where the targets are and which ones are friendly.
I like the idea of UAVs, but as an electronics technician, it's too easy for me to imagine something going wrong with any of several vital systems. And besides, even with crewed vehicles, remember how many "friendly fire" incidents there were during Desert Storm? It's very, very hard to tell friend from foe, especially when people are shooting at you.
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I think that if Starfleet can send encoded messages that no one can break between DS9 and Earth, I am sure they could control a ship. But, they wouldn't need to do that. Data is the perfect example. Sorta. A ship that has a specific objective but can make it's own decisions would be good. But, of course, that is on the verge of AI and whether it should be treated like a human and whatnot. It's a grand idea, but I don't think it will work too well.... =(
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In a Starfleet context, didn't Bruce Maddox(spelling?) try to create copies of Data for combat and long range exploration?
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The goal of any nation is to minimize the loss of life in war. An ability to strike your enemy by a distance can save lives. An example-the federation starship USS Bellona-a missile frigate-is given the orders to launch a strike against an outpost controlled by Cardassian -Dominion forces. So using warp conduits, the USS Bellona launches a swarm of missiles which pass through the conduit and strike the target. The personnel on the outpost have only seconds or minutes to respond before being hit. And, capital warships on both sides attacking each other is a rare event. Even in our times, capital warships rarely get into battle. The last great battles between capital warships occured in World War I-the Battle of Jutland. With the advent of carrier warfare in World War II, a nation could strike an enemy's forces without engaging giant ships in battle. For television dramatic purposes, this kind of warfare can be very unengaging. How can an audience member feel for the crew of a ship if they are safe from harm and not in the midst of battle where lives are at stake?
Note: Computers will used for targeting and scanning the enemy territory.
And the strategies used by both sides will evolve from their war histories. And that is where the incompresibility figutes in. Without knowning the history or emotional context of a nation, we cann't understand why they fight as they do. In history class, I learn of one such example. During the battles between the American Indians and the Europeans, the Indians would race up to the Europeans and "tag" them without killing them. This form of "craziness" was viewed as an act of courage by the Indians. The more Europeans an Indian touched, the greater the courage of the Indian.
The producers do their very best; however, they do not have the means to create a society and give it a richness of texture and meaning. This can only happen with the individuals of a society. Without knowing and understanding this complexity, a society is an enigma to outsiders.
I hope this explains my position.
In this case, sure, you could use long-range missiles and such. But the enemy would soon find a way to subvert them. And such missiles would more or less be unmanned ships anyway.
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