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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

I'm currently preparing an analysis of the Akira size, similar to Frank's, except that my result will be 440m +/- 10m.

When I checked the infamous DS9TM size figures again, I noticed that the Akira, Miranda and Excelsior are all scaled up by the same factor from the Ency II size chart to the DS9TM. Could this mean that the Encyclopedia size is actually correct? I correponds very well with my structural analysis.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

What length did the DS9TM state??

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

DS9TM
Akira 464m
Excelsior: 511m
Miranda: 277m

All the above ships seem to be scaled up by a factor of 1.08 to 1.1.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

What canon info is there for a measurement this size, though...?

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

I don't know, but I do know that when I scale the Akira using the Akira and Excelsior numbers above and the official(?) Excelsior's 467 meters, I get a 424 meter long Akira class.

To bad that the Enc 2 shows the Akira only scaled to the Defiant (as far as I know)

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

The DS9TM just uses the Encyclopedia II lengths.

Regardless, I eagerly await Bernd's page.

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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :

Bernd: scaling down the DS9TM sizes will not necessarily yield the intended size, but your discovery is significant. The only consistency that I have been able to find is that the ship sizes are *ordered* correctly, and that the Galaxy is generally too small (couldn't fit on the page?). I'm not yet sure that there is such a thing as a correctly scaled majority, it really depends on how Doug Drexler went about drawing the charts.

In any case, 420/460 meters is a relatively minor question. I would opt for 440-467 meters because it fits the ordering between a Nebula and an Excelsior. It almost certainly is the intended size, because it makes sense in regard to Alex Jaeger's comment about the Akira saucer being about the same size as the Sovereign one (fits regardless of whether or not he meant length, width, or area, although area fits best).

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

I thought he said the Akira's saucer was as wide as the Sovereign's?

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

I agree with Frank on this. The Akira and Sov saucer widths are very close when the Akira is 427m. I saw that figure somewhere but can't remember where it's from. It does equate to 1400ft, though.

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

The statement about the saucer width is one more argument for the 440m. Where did Jaeger say it?

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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :

Jaeger didn't say anything about either the width or the length, he merely said "size" if I recall correctly. The comment was in Star Trek: The Magazine, the one with the Akira article. I forget which issue that was.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

IIRC, he did say something along the lines of "width" (someone needs to find the article!

), and if that's the case, the Akira would be ~380m, I think. It's not relevant, though, since Jaegar isn't the show.

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