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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Well, now, the Delta Flyer has it's own JEFFRIES TUBE, since Kim was climbing inside one tonight in "Collective". You guys discuss this, I'm watching for more stupid mistakes.

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Well, since "edit" is gone, I'll post this. Delta Flyer now has an escape pod (though I am guessing it has more then 1 escape pod). Why don't we just start calling this thing a dreadnaught already???

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Posted by Delta Vega (Member # 283) on :

Soon they will have another starship, USS Delta Flyer.

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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

I just don't see the idea of an escape pod. It would take up most of the Flyer's size...which is impossible. A Jeffries Tube is more believable since Danube class runabout have one as well.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Starfleet comes out with the Delta Flyer class with the Flyer as the prototype. Nearly the same size as a runabout and it's more advanced. Why not take advantage of it and try to make a production series of Flyers as runabouts or attack fighters.

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Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :

All that Borg tech you see.
The Borg have discovered interdimensional transcendentalism!

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

What about inflatable escape pods? Those wouldn't take up much room. Imagine the exterior door of the Frequent Flyer opening, with a forcefield erected across it to keep the air in. Then out of the door frame comes this mechanism that sweeps across the doorway and rolls open the escape pod. The escapee jumps out, the pod stretches to accommodate him or her, then seals shut behind her with a big slurping sound, and floats free of the Flyer, a small instrumentation package attached to it (with life support, homing beacon, perhaps small thrusters as well). The machinery rolls open the next pod, the next escapee bails out...

The "pod" could be skintight, like a rapidly donnable spacesuit. Or it could balloon into a nice little cocoon. Of course, if this were TAS, the whole thing would be done with forcefields - but plain simple physical matter could also be used, CGI allowing.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Well, I haven't seen the ep, but I can imagine a Jefferies Tube under the Flyer's main deck.

If you'll recall, some shuttles supposedly have escape pods too: Picard told that cute young Bajoran ensign she could get back into Fed space in an escape pod in "Lower Decks" TNG.

That should've been the ensign's first clue that that mission was going to have problems. My guess is that they are very VERY small like probe size or something. They may even have stasis capability to help out those who don't like the feeling of being trapped inside a coffin...

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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

That might not be possible if a shuttle or the Flyer is manned by more than one person. Having all those mini-pods could take room away for equipment and parts of the shuttle/Flyer.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Like previously said, a Jefferies' Tube makes enough sense.

One thing I'd like to add: Maybe they're escape pods on the scale of K'Ehleyr's warp thingy (uh, it's been a while since I've seen the ep ). Very small. Mind you, I have yet to see "Collective".

Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

Didn't Aban already say that?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

That was a modified torpedo casing, which still takes up a fair amount of space.

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

And yet the Delta Flyer was launching several photon torpedoes at at cube from "Collective..."

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Microtorps most likely

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Posted by Justin_Timberland (Member # 236) on :

But I heard Chakotay say photon...

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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

Partially merging in another thread, I guess it confirms that the Flyer's torp launchers are on top and the deflector dish is on bottom.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Chakotay did say, "Arm the photon torpedoes," after Neelix exclaims that phasers are down.

Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Then he probably meant a micro-photon torpedo.

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Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on :

Yes, a micro-photon torpedo. Which means it is basically the same thing as a photon torpedo, but a helluva lot smaller.

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

13.3 centimeters if they're the same type as those used on a runabout.

When Kim got back to the cockpit it looked like he came in on the other side, access to the cargo bay is on the left, he came in at the right. I think the Jefferies Tube might be next to the entry hatch and span the length of the cargo bay.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

No mentioning of an escape pod in the rest of the schematics.

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

You MIGHT be able to fit two escape pods or so on ether side of the cockpit (for 1 person only). There is a little bit of room behind those "intake vents". Of course, god only knows what those intake vents are for. There is nothing to "intake" in space.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Ok, here are the full schematics. The location you mention there are 4 (2 on each side) 'atmospheric speedbrakes'. BUT they are also called 'contingency system storage'. Could these be the locations of the escape pods??

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Bottom
Side, Front and Back

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Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on :

What about that Dorsal Escape Hatch?

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Don't think so... To small.

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Posted by Justin_Timberland (Member # 236) on :

Wait, I just looked at the DS9 Tech Manual and it states that the Danube Class can launch photon or quantum torpedoes! Now why can't the Delta Flyer???

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Well, those torpedo launchers are in the replacable mission pods in the middle of the Runabout (between the nacelle pylons).

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Maybe Voyager just doesn't have any micro-quantorps.

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