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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

For my site I'm making a brief descripting of each ship in their class. For an example check out my Galaxy-class page. Unfortantly there were a few I couldn't find anything on. If anyone can help I would appreciate it a lot.

Akira-class:
USS Rabin NCC-63293
USS Spector NCC-65549
Which one of these is from MiaB? And what's the other one from?
Name Unknown NCC-63646

Miranda-class:
Name Unknown NCC-13741
I think it's from WYLB, but I'm not sure.

Sydney-class:
USS Nash NCC-
Name Unknown NAR-25820

Class unknown:
SS Buckaroo Bonzai NCC-
USS Discovery NCC-
USS Galice NCC-
USS Hispanola NCC-
SS Urusei Yatsura NCC-
USS Veracruz NCC-

I have their episode, I just don't know what they did.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Neither the Rabin nor the Spectre seem to be real, actually. The 63646 one is definitely non-existent.

There was a Miranda with a registry in WYLB, but it seemed to have four digits.

The Nash might have been in a few eps of DS9. The NAR one is really the non-Sydney shuttle from STVI.

The Buckaroo Bonzai is from a display or something. The Discovery does not exist, despite what grammar might dictate. The Galice and Hispanola appeared on a display in "Whispers" (DS9). Dunno about the Ususei Yatsura. The Veracruz is from "The Seige of AR-555" (DS9) or whatever the number was, transporting troops, IIRC.

Oh, now you tell me you have their episodes...well, the above can confirm them, then.

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

The Urusai Yatsura is a DY-430-Ship from TNG "Up The Long Ladder".
The NCC of the Nash is NCC-2010-B!?!

The Rabin is from the Fact-Files. The Spector from MiaB.
http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~djc/startrek/expand/federation2.html

Where come the Akira-ships USS Harbinger NCC-63298, USS Tetsuo NCC - 62799, USS Deathwatch NCC-62801 and
USS Durandal NCC-69858 from?

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

IIRC those Akira's are from LUG...

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

Sorry, I'm new here. What's IIRC and LUG? And is LUG canon?

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

IIRC: If I recall correctly

I don't know where LUG stands for, but it is not canon.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

LUG is Last Unicorn Games and as Mike said, it isn't canon.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Those fake Akira's aren't from LUG. They're from UP & UP2. Yet another example of the corruption it has wreaked with it's damn non-canonness.

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

The unknown Miranda NCC-13741 is what I was able to read from the episode. For some reason, everyone believes it. Oh well, more power to me.

And, since I just found that the SS Urusei Yatsura is DY-430 class (most likely from "Up The Long Ladder"), what about the SS Tomabiki and SS Buckaroo Banzai? Aren't they from the same episode? And if so, have you found a class?

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

Ships from this episode:

V.K. "Velikan" DY-1200 ship
D.E.V. "Eagle Valley" DY-950 ship
S.S. "Hatteras" DY-245 ship
S.S. "Hokule'a" DY-500-C ship
V.K. "Yuri Gagarin" DY-732 ship
S.S. "Tomobiki" RT-2203 ship
S.S. "Seattle" NAR-18834
H.M.S. "Lord Nelson" DY-500-B
S.S. "Mariposa" NAR-7678 modified DY-500 ship
H.M.S. "New Zealand" DY-732 ship
S.S. "Buckaroo Banzai" BBI-993 spaceship
S.S "Urusei Yatsura" DY-430 ship

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Hmmm....I never knew about any of these. Couple of problems though.

Would the ships not marked with an SS still be Federation or no? What about HMS ?

Haven't we seen a D.E.V. ship before? In "Whispers"?

The SS Seattle has the same registry number as the SS Vico

Would RT-2203 and BBI-993 count as registry numbers of classes?

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

What D.E.V. was this? I think it's the class name. All these ships are from James Dixon's Timeline.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Well, the SS ships may or may not be Fed. Depends upon when they are from.

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

S.S. Hokule'a 2102
S.S. Tomobiki 2119
S.S. Seattle 2120
S.S. Mariposa 2123
S.S. Buckaroo Banzai 2137
S.S. Urusai Yatsura 2146
S.S. Hatteras 2187

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Posted by colin (Member # 217) on :

DEV
There might have been a DEV something in "Whispers". There was a LTA Elmira, SS Oregon, and WEB Dubois in that episode.
VK Velikan
What is a Velikan?
DEV Eagle Valley
I like this name. Very descriptive. According to the Star Trek Timeline, the last class of the DY series is DY 750. This is disproven by the canonical evidence of a DY 950.
SS Hatteras
Is this ship named after Cape Hatteras?
SS Hokule'a
Interesting. A Starfleet starship and a Terran spaceship share the same name.
VK Yuri Gagarin
Second mention of Gagarin in the second season.
SS Tomobiki
RT-2203. I believe this is a class designation. The only time I have seen a two letter registry is that of the TR-47 from FIRST CONTACT. TR-47 is a lifepod.
SS Seattle
NAR-18834. Shares similar registry with SS Vico. Possible hypothesis-UFP adopted the NAR registry for civilian ships and registries were reused. This can be used as evidence that registries are recycled.
HMS Lord Nelson
DY-500-B. This class of DY ships seemed to be very popular and inspired at least three variants. Also, the HMS may reflect that the United Kingdom had spaceships registered in this time period.
SS Mariposa
HMS New Zealand
SS Buckaroo Banzai
BBI-993. Could be a registry or class designation. Based on the description, I will accept this as a class.
SS Urusei Yatsura

The Star Trek: The Next Generation companion lists three of these ships. SS Buckaroo Banzai is a reference to a forgotten sci-fi film of the mid-1980's and SS Urusei Yatsura and SS Tomobiki are references to Japanese cinema-anime.

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

What does DEV mean anyway?

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

Where can I get the Companion?

Has anyone information for the following ships?
The Nebula and Defiants from MiaB, the Nebula from "Non Sequitur", the Constellation from Picard's Ready Room with the 7xxx-Number.

Has anyone pictures of dedication plaques?

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Posted by Dane Simri (Member # 272) on :

You ARE kidding about the WEB Dubois thing, right targetemployee?

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

It's hard to make out in this image, but it's fourth from the bottom, if you have this episode ("Whispers" (DS9)) on tape:
http://frankg.dgne.com/sff/whispers.jpg

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

The Nebula is NCC-70915. And the Constellation was NCC-7100.

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Well, are these ships CANON or no?

And maybe HMS is actually part of the name. Like, SS HMS Lord Nelson?

And, as for the "Whispers" list, can anyone can some of the captains listed there? I would like those for my list

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Posted by colin (Member # 217) on :

Well, anything that is in an episode or film is canonical. This list of ships from "Up the Long Ladder" is canonical.
I like that Mr. Okuda named a ship after a great civil rights leader-WEB DuBois. He is a person I admire very much.
And adding to the list of unknown starships is the Oberth Class USS Valiant NCC-20000 from Star Trek: Generations. I saw a model of this ship in a documentary filmed at ILM many years ago. Yet another unknown starship is the USS Cochrane from "The Drumhead".
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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

What's with the Miranda from Generations? The last number of the Farragut is a 7, not a 1, isn't it?

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

The Farragut is 60597.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Something about the WEB DuBois... Making "WEB" the prefix is, at the least, rather silly. Perhaps we can assume that the ship is actually named the W.E.B. DuBois, and there is some other prefix before it (USS, SS, whatever). However, some fool who keeps docking records at DS9 asked "What ship is this?" and the reply was "The W.E.B. DuBois." and the officer thought that "W.E.B." was some prefix he had never heard of.

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

Fitz: For dedication plaques and other pics, go here: http://mercury.spaceports.com/~tustc/

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

Thanx pIn'a' Sov. No Ship-Yard on the E-B-plaque? Is it the San Francisco FY or the Antares FY? What's the Yard of the Prometheus? Aren't there plaques of the Pasteur, Phoenix, Yamato, Tsiolkovsky, Stargazer, Hathaway and the Equinox?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

In the age of DVDs and high resolution televisions and other digital whatnots, I'm not so sure we can say that everything onscreen is canon...I mean, we have to leave some room for injokes and the like, don't we?

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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

I've said something very similar to that effect in another thread.

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

Shadow, I can't see anything on this PADD. Do I have so bad eyes?

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Not at all; you'll need to check the episode itself to read anything, if you happen to have it on tape.

Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

"The Siege of AR-558" (the episode's production number), Frank.

Posted by colin (Member # 217) on :

Even in the age of dvds, there will be limitations on what is visible on the screen. Many of the in-jokes will remain invisible. A question, how does one identify in-jokes?
In the original, there were few in-jokes. The best known to me is GNDN, labeled on pipes, which is "Goes NoWhere Does Nothing".

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

That's the central problem, I suppose. But I think we'll probably be able to hash it out via discussion and a little thought.

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

Has anyone a readable picture of this PADD or a list of these ships?

In-jokes: There was a E-D shuttle called "Indiana Jones" on a screen.

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