What did you think of the Enterprise when you first saw her again In Star Trek I The SloW-Motion Picture?
Though I saw her before I saw the Enterprise in the series but she had so much grace in her design. She was so beuatiful and powerful looking at the same time. A trait most of the current Star Trekdesigns lack.
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
I thought she looked great!
One small nit: That isn't the Enterprise-A. The Ent-A was first seen in ST4:'The Voyager Home'.
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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :
Yes, the Enterprise in STTMP, ST2 and ST3 was the original one, but 'refitted'. I love the design, it is much more beautiful than the TOS Enterprise. What an ugly design. (although saying that is sort of a taboo...)
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
The Constitution refit is an ingenious and beautiful starship design. Agreed, Matt Jefferies designed the original Constitution - which isn't bad at all - and set the standards. But Probert's E-A is among the most well-considered designs, together with the Galaxy (Probert) and the Intrepid (Sternbach). Moreover, the E-A is probably the most realistically looking ship. I still think they filmed TMP in a real drydock!
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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
I agree with Bernd about the Connie and the Galaxy, but *not* on the Intrepid! I just don't like the flapping nacelles and the fact that it can withstand the ridiculous conditions in wich Voyager is set (in fact, I regard the entire Voyager series semi-canon ).
Instead of the Intrepid, I'd place the Olympic, simply a beauty. And I'd add the Excelsior, the first class newly designed after the Connie kitbashers!
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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
I think one of the most beautiful shots of the two is when the damaged Enterprise went into drydock and you can see the Excelsior in the same shot. I wish we can see the Enterprise-A one more time.
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Posted by Nemesis (Member # 255) on :
I like the scene in "Undiscovered Country" when General Chang is quoting Shakespeare and you see the Enterprise flying by. The Refit-Constitution looks very good, but it has two design flaws for me: the neck and the pylons....they are too fragile. What Bridge-Design of the Enterprise do you like most of the movies? My favourite is also the Enterprise Bridge in ST6.
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Yeah that's the best bridge I think ever in Star Trek.
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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
Yep, I agree, the ST6 bridge is definately the best for the Ent-refit/A. I also really like the Constitution-refit design. The only thing that bothers me is that it doesn't have any aft torpedo launchers.
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Posted by Cammodude on :
I agree, no aft torpedo launchers is a VERY big minus. Especaly it combat. Which could be one reason why starfleet retired them. It was because they can be distroyed to easily from behind.
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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
There is no apparent phaser cover either in the aft section. However I like the idea that in the Ships of the Fleet say that the "Enterprise class" has aft phasers above the shuttlebay and the bottom of the engineering hull. Also there is modification which has a aft torpedo launcher.
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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Um....there IS aft phaser coverage on the refits. It's been integral since day oen of the redesign. Look at the TMP blueprints--2 single units above the hangar bay & 2 single units in a square on the lowermost point of the ventral secondary hull.
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Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :
Yeah, if you look at pictures of the studio model, there are phasers there too. They've just never been used.
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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
My favorites in Ship & Bridge Design are the E-A and the Excelsior.
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Posted by Trip Tucker (Member # 297) on :
I know it wasn't a real Starfleet ship, but my favourite bridge design would have to be that of the Dauntless. It's a toss-up really.... The Dauntless bridge or the Prometheus bridge.
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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
The Prometheus's interior is really like a Galaxy class tpye one. It has a luxury feel in it that I have only seen in the Enterprise-D.
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Definately the best bridge, is the E-A's from Star Trek VI.
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Posted by Savar on :
I think the Enterprise bridge from ST6 was the best, except I prefer the ST5 navigation/helm console. It had a flat surface with backlit graphics, like the TNG consoles, except in different hues of blue. Why did they add manual toggles and buttons again in ST6?
The console has changed drastically in the course of the movies. Remember The Motion Picture when warp speed was controlled with a big throttle?! Uhg.
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
The entire bridge of the Enterprise in ST I was ugly. All those clear crystal buttons that don't even have any labels on them. How would you know which one to press? I guess they have it pretty memorized. I have more respect for Spock now since within a couple of hours he can read and use those controls properly.
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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Well,the ship did squeeze out of the spacedock ahead of schedule. Perhaps the guy who was supposed to paint in the button labels missed the boat? The warp engine "throttle" could have been a temporary installation as well, only intended for engine tests...
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
As opposed to TNG buttons, which have those easy-to-read random numbers on them... :-)
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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :
My most favourite bridges are those of the Dauntless, Ent-E and the Voyager. I hate the E-nil bridge from TOS. Agreed, it definitely looked futuristic in the sixties, but today, it looks sooooooo anti-modern.
How about your favourite ships? Mine are Sovereign and Akira.
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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
Well it's all about the style back then in the 23rd century. They might look like it's primitive but it could be more advanced then even now. The Galaxy for her graceful lines and the Defiant for her weapons.
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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :
Well, I certainly had no intention of hinting to primitive tech... I only think the design looks somewhat too 'old-style'. 'Primitive' was a bit strong. But yes, old-style was appearently a fashion during the 23rd century.
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Posted by Trip Tucker (Member # 297) on :
My favourite ships would have to be the ones only seen on Voyager once. I call them the Voyager "Fab Four": the Prometheus, the Dauntless, the Relativity, and the Equinox. I love the Prometheus for it's weapons, the Dauntless for it's streamlined look, the Relativity for it's interesting hull shape and the Equinox because it's a kick-ass little ship.
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
I totally agree with nx. Also, I personally like the Prometheus for all the things it is, has and can do.
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Does anyone else think that the Cheyenne might be a precursor to the Prometheus... The difference being after saucer separation the saucer still can only do impulse... the other two sections can go at warp though!?!
Andrew
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Actually, I like the thought that the whole ship splits down the middle. Half of the saucer goes w/ the top and the other half goes w/ the bottom.
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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
Yeah unfortunately I we never did see the Cheyenne up and personal to make a theory about that. That's a neat idea though.
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