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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Brand-new concept in architectural design. They're caleld "windows." Usually made out of some transparent material, usually glass, in this case transparent aluminum. Windows allow the person inside a structure to see outside it without fear of attack by the elements or other things in nature.
By the way, did you hear about this new thing that a guy in Germany created? He calls it a "printing press." He says that he can make tomes infinitely faster than ever seen before because he doesn't use copyists. Amazing! WHAT will they think of next?
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Posted by Cammodude on :
Now now Shik, be nice. I believe that is an observation area.
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Posted by Trip Tucker (Member # 297) on :
I'm assuming it's a Shuttlebay observation lounge. Just sit back with a Raktajino and watch the shuttles come and go Voyager has one, only it's underneath their Shuttlebay, on Deck 11.
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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :
Considering the amount of shuttles aboard Voyager, you could sit there all day, if you spend your time there counting passing-by shuttles.
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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Ahh...it's Main Shuttlebay's Control Room... I think. It's used to view incoming and outgoing shuttles and aux. vehicles. From what I've heard, it has windows that show inside the shuttlebay so anyone can sit down, move his/her chair from the windows that show outside to the windows that show inside.
Isn't Voyager's Control Room within THE ONLY SHUTTLEBAY the ship has?
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
In Insurrection the SFX creators thought it was the torpedo launcher...
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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
quote:In Insurrection the SFX creators thought it was the torpedo launcher...
That's why I'm asking. Some people told me, that it fired photon torpedos in Insurrection but I didn't believe it.
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
Shik: You should become a writer for the Fact Files. You know, I'm from Germany, and I could learn quite a bit from your extensive explanation. The information the Fact Files give on the topic are rather meager: "A large window provided a means of visually checking the outside environment." Or was is the ST Magazine?
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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
It's a matter of personal interpretation whether the torpedoes in "Insurrection" are coming from somewhere near these windows (or perhaps from within the shuttlebay?) or from the regular launchers below the ship's fantail. The torps move really fast, clearing the ship's vicinity in something like two frames of film, and there is no frame that would show the torps *above* the stern part of the ship's secondary hull, so they could just as easily be coming from below the stern.
I'm not sure the big "Eleven-Backward" windows on the Voyager are supposed to be a shuttle monitoring room. They could be just an aft lounge, perhaps with a nice pool and a couple of solariums inside. There's undoubtedly some sort of a control booth inside the shuttlebay itself, and also a window or two (plus an airlock door) in the back wall where the shuttlebay door is located.
The E-D apparently never had a shuttlecraft approach control cabin with windows opening to the exterior, nor did the E-B, even though the refitted original ship did have a control alcove similar to the one on the E-E. The model of the E-C isn't detailed enough to tell if there are windows near the secondary hull shuttlebay doors, or next to the primary hull bay.
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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Heeheehee...OK, I WAS a leetle harsh...but the opportunity presented itself & I just could NOT let it get away. It's just that--between here & RAST--I'm getting really sick of that question. Extraneous questions that are easily answered by a few visits to some really rippin' wwwebsites smacks of laziness to me.
And Bernd? I could never work for Fact Files--I know my kelilacteral from my firomactal drive too well.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Michael: I believe they had to add a second shuttlebay because some episode made a reference to "shuttlebay 2", even though there was no such thing. But I could be wrong...
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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
TSN, I was kidding about that. I knew that the Shuttlebay 2 thing that no one realized until shooting finished. Although, I wonder why Kate Mulgrew wasn't asked to record over that in post production.
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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
The multiple shuttlebay thing has been going for a while now. Kim said they were being "boarded through the shuttlebays" in Basics Part I, and I know Shuttlebay Two was mentioned in the first Delta Flyer episode.
Anyway, Sternbach has said that Shuttlebay Two is a sort of side pad accessed through the same door, which I believe was reflected by the SciPubTech poster.
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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
Why would you call the a shuttle bay door 'Shuttle Bay 2'? It's a door to the same shuttlebay. I think that if there is a second shuttlebay on Voyager then it would be seperate from the main one. Perhapsn underneath? I will have to take a look at the schematics of her though.
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
I thought Sternbach said that shuttlebay two is behind shuttlebay one, as in: you need to go through shuttlebay one to get to shuttlebay two.
Anyway, we've seen both shuttlebays on screen, bay two is where the Delta Flyer is build, bay one is visible in 'Counterpoint'.
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Here's another little problem though: I don't remember the episode, but some said something about launching from shuttlebay 2, then the camera shot shows a shuttle leaving from the aft main shuttlebay. So either bay 2 is accessed through the same doors as bay 1, or the aft shuttle bay is actually bay 2. Of course those same doors have also been used as the access for the "main shuttle bay".
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I think Sternbach has already settled for using two bays accessible through the same set of doors. But one could also say that the "main" bay is actually officially considered Shuttlebay 2 because it lies on a lower deck than a smaller Shuttlebay 1. Perhaps a tiny Bay 1 could be somewhere on the ship's spine (near the torp launcher), or then the docking berth for the Aeroshuttle is considered Bay 1...
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
I wonder where they built the Delta Flyer. The are was two decks tall, and looked nothing like the small room which was seen in "Counterpoint" or "Barge of the Dead", for instance. I think the big, main shuttlebay is behind the small shuttlebay 2. Nevertheless, it wouldn't make sense to "launch a shuttle from shuttlebay 2" since this would be the only possible exit.
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I think they just screwed this point up. The Galaxy Class has shuttle storage facilities too. They are on decks below the shuttle bay. But they are not reffered to as shuttle bays. The Intrepid Class should only have ever had one shuttle bay, the one on its butt. Everything else is a docking port (there is one on the spine: it's the little corner that's cut out) or a cargo port, or a work bee launch tube.
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Voyager has one, only it's underneath their Shuttlebay, on Deck 11. 